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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Is your argument legitimately over the usage of a word? You won't even entertain any of the human rights abuses because it doesn't contain your safe word? That's not how literacy works.

Okay, well, the term "violation" is mentioned 80 times. "Abuse" 24 times. "Detain/detainees" mentioned 721 times.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yes words have meaning. Guantanamo Bay is also many human rights abuses but not targeted extermination of an entire group.

Thank you for conceding the argument. I agree with the second paragraph of your comment.

[–] HumanoidTyphoon@quokk.au 7 points 1 week ago

I don’t think the Uyghurs being forcibly surgically sterilized care what vocabulary word you use. They know they are being systematically exterminated, and so does most of the rest of the world.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'll concede the argument that Amnesty only references the word "genocide" three times in their report, if you concede that China is imperialist with human rights abuses and putting Uyghurs into internment camps. Which you should agree is occurring, no? After all isn't your argument It's not a genocide, it's just human rights abuses in an internment camp on the basis of their ethnicity.

Otherwise, you should be aware that this community has rules regarding revisionism and apologia, and denying the treatment of the Uyghurs falls under violation of these rules.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Amnesty used the word genocide zero times in their report. Unless you count text in a hyperlink as a word usage.

Do you have any actual evidence, or is your entire argument limited to hoping nobody fact checks anything you say?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if you concede that China is imperialist with human rights abuses and putting Uyghurs into internment camps.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sure. Though Chinese imperialism is very little compared to the US or Europe.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Oh the famous "what about"!

Yeah can kill people because what about the Spanish armada killing people eh?! /s

Tankies are so predictable.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't care about the US or Europe, this is about Chinese imperialism.

And the human rights abuses for putting Uyghurs into internment camps based on their ethnicity?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

For their religion not their ethnicity.

Chinese Imperialism is mainly in supporting the Junta in Myanmar.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Plenty of warning and you kept doubling down. Please read the rules. Your ban will last 24 hours for apologia and revisionism.

Tankies can explain their views but may be criticised or attacked for them. Any slight infraction on the rules above will immediately earn a warning and possibly a ban.

You’ll be warned if you’re violating the instance and community rules. Continuing poor behaviour after being warned will result in a ban or removal of your comments. Bans typically only last 24 hours, but each subsequent infraction will double the amount. Depending on the content, the ban time may be increased. You may request an unban at any time.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

If you read the amnesty report you quote so much, you'll know that it was on grounds of ethnicity. Regardless, religion is just as bad.

There's also no such thing as 'supportive' imperialism, and you're also ignoring Tibet, China in the Southern sea and the Belt and Road initiative

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

Wow what normal human behavior, Ctrl+Fing a report describing an ongoing genocide and instead of seeing the systemic and targeted human rights violations and becoming upset at the flagrant devaluation of human life, you go winging on about whether or not it technically is a genocide or not, and throw in some whataboutism as a red herring. Very normal human behavior that doesn't scream tankie at all

[–] Hell_nah_brother@thelemmy.club -1 points 1 week ago

This was hilarious, thank you.