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[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It would be nice if there were some thought into charging stops. Like I want a halfway decent sandwich and a coffee while I'm here. Usually, all I get is the far end of a Walmart parking lot. If there's anything in walking distance at all, it's probably across a stroad with no pedestrian signals.

Oddly enough, EVs are better in walkable cities.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Everything is better in walkable cities

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

if i owned a restaurant, i would KILL for a bunch of chargers. think about it! your stuck there for like at least a half an hour. why not just grab a bite? your a captive audience at that point. or theaters? gas stations seem to be the WORST place for them, because their need for fast turn around.

what i would have done with gas stations would be to have a battery swap system, sorta like a propane tank refill. now the cars would have to be designed where some batteries would have to be slotable by the user, but a benefit would be instant charge using a battery subscription deal. it would also effectively remove the max mileage concern from EV entirely, and the gas stations would not need much retro fitting at all.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nio does battery swap stations. Never tried them myself, but they don't seem to be very successful, at least not yet. My main problem is that you don't own the battery and have to permanently rent it (which makes sense, since you swap it constantly). The costs long term don't make it very attractive, especially since it solves a problem most people face like once a year, when going on vacation.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

well, someone else mentioned problems with it on an engineering level that would be an issue.

but my main thought was that the car would have to be designed in a way where the car would still have its normal batteries, but could slot in additional batteries, and you would handle it just like swapping out propane tanks at a gas station

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Several groups have tried battery swapping. It just doesn't work very well.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Standardization, designing the whole car around it, and the complex mechanisms to automatically change the system. Batteries are heavy and need chonky, high current connections. Those connections are easier if they're wired in and left alone for the life of the car. Also, can't take advantage of making the battery more integrated into the frame to reduce weight.

It's not a new idea. Whole bunch of companies tried it and failed to go anywhere. Formula E ruled it out for safety reasons; in earlier seasons, drivers swapped cars instead of packs.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aren't some ebike companies in Asia operating on swappable battery packs, I guess it's a matter of those batteries being smaller

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that engineering problem isn't in the same order of magnitude.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Charge stations should be on the Italian Autogrill model. Only in Italy can you get the best food in the country at a gas stop.

[–] logi@piefed.world 2 points 2 days ago

Hell yes. Unfortunately the Tesla chargers here are not at the Autogrills and you have to get off the motorway and usually into some random hotel parking lot for those. But there will be other fast chargers right at the Autogrills so I end up using those 🤷