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Damn shame. I use DDG, but them consistently fucking up makes me want to switch. Though i don't know of any alternatives.
edit: thanks for the recommendations!
Kagi. Privacy focussed, no ads, and excellent results with options for sorting preferred sources to appear at the top, or not. Costs money but man, it’s fast and good in the way Google was back in the day. Some plans also include anonymous access to a variety of LLMs though they are older models, and if they can run them locally, they do. Really liking it.
FWIW the founder of Kagi is adamant that subscribers must accept part of the subscruption money being sent to Russia (Yandex, fully govt-controlled) and has refused all attempts at excluding it. When questions started appearing he even tried claiming Yandex isn't even russian.
Source?
Very quick internet search yielded this result: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19
Thank you!
EDIT: Okay, reading the replies there it seems like this is a virtue signalling issue rather than something specifically wrong with Yandex search results. Like how some people tried to start a boycott of Proton over a tweet that praised a Trump appointment, or accused Ladybird browser of being "transphobic" because someone tried to discuss gender pronouns in the issue tracker and was told it was not the right place.
Not wanting to financially contribute to a country that's invaded and has been performing genocide on its neighbor, and has been actively waging hybrid wars on European and US democracies is not virtue signaling.
Also, this.
Did you forget that you're in a piracy community?
Ngl I don’t get these people always being like “Source?”
Just look it up bruh it takes less time than to comment
Source?
Asking the person who purports to be an expert on the situation to provide some context is much faster than someone who knows nothing about it, like myself, trying to find it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)
Yea, it's gets to sounding like playground argument tactics "nuh uh!" (which is basically sophistry).
Even when I'm being genuinely curious these days, I try to ask for a source by making it a convo, like "do you remember where you came across that or what should I search for to get good results", instead of "source?".
I'll give the trial a go, thank you for the recommendation
Which country are Kagi servers hosted in?
Dunno. Check their about page, but appears to be through GCP?
I swapped to Kagi this month. It's refreshing. I'll probably end up on the $10/month plan. They also have a library pilot program I'm trying to get my academic library to look into.
I used it for almost a year at the lowest tier, then got the couples plan more recently and it has high spouse approval factor, even though there was some initial setup
https://leta.mullvad.net/ uses Brave or Google
https://searx.space/ uses any of the big search engines you want, you do have to pick an instance
thanks for this one. i'm currently trying out their encrypted and adblocking dns on the hotspot i set up on dietpi to isolate 'streaming' devices, comparing its effectiveness to pihole and adguard home.
Thanks! I think i'm set on searxng + some other stuff i'd like to try.
SearXNG instances, bravesearch, startpage, etc...
Doesn't startpage use google, though? Wouldn't it still be affected?
I will try searxng/brave, thank you
Yeah it is dependant on Google and Google can do censorship. However from personnal experience (maybe it differ in different countries) Google does less censorship than Microsoft at least regarding their search engines.
Best one is probably (in my opinion) selfhosting a searxng instance. It takes results from a dozen of engines (you configure which ones) and merges them according to the configured weights and some algorithmic magic.
If you use public instances, the owner might have tuned the results to suit themselves and it returns garbage for your usecase. And also they frequently get timeouts because a lot of people use them. So don't get turned off by trying a couple of them.
Since I started running my own private instance I am super happy with the search results.
+1 i have my own searxng instance on my lan that I access via my headscale VPN setup. Love it.
Thanks for the recommendation!
Yacy? You can self host if you want.
I've heard of it before but never dug into it, will do. Thanks
Its not great if I'm honest. But it does work!
Startpage is similarly anonymous, but it uses Google search
And is owned by an ad company afaik
Yeah, they advertise using only the context of the keywords of your current search. No storing of personal data, no profiling. They've had third parties review that. Seems fine to me.
From privacyguides.org
I literally told you months ago I have a SearXNG instance up, you fucking knob.
I forgor
I'll set it as my main tomorrow and see where this goes lol
searxng and 4get are great alternatives