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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Project 2025 and Curtis Yarvin have direct ties to 4chan as well. Maybe not the horse you wanna hitch to.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Who the fuck is Curtis Yarvin? And what the shit does P25 have to do with 4Chan?

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 30 points 5 days ago (3 children)

He's the philosopher of choice for people like Peter Thiel and JD Vance. He advocates for moving to a neofeudalist system, arguing that democracy is a failed project. Beyond this, he holds some truly repugnant views that are woven throughout his ideology

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 days ago

US representative democracy may be a failed system, but it was designed in the 18th century when travel and long range communications was time consuming. Needs a major revamp for the digital world, and we are getting to the point where that could be possible (technology, at least).

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As an ancap whose views have been called repugnant too, I say you could be more specific and say he's racist, misogynist and mixes up social prowess, intelligence and wisdom, while these are three different things.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I still can't believe ancaps are real lmao. It's the most obviously flawed ideology o have ever seen.

Just look outside and see that this but worse is a terrible idea.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s the most obviously flawed ideology o have ever seen.

It's the exact opposite. It's the only one incorporating all the basic necessary principles.

Which is why Cato institute is the only ideological authority which I can read without starting to curse.

And I'm certain you don't know shit about ancap just like every other person I've met saying this. Maybe you should LYAO over how you repeat one and the same statement on it never providing arguments. Laugh over yourself, you know.

It's the point which all decent ideologies approach. Left or right, doesn't matter.

If you don't have private property, then you have group property, which in human nature means group leader's property (and also decisions made in a group don't make anything better, might read about Khmer Rouge, they didn't have such a strict vertical hierarchy, the results were not nicer from that). If you don't have non-aggression as a principle, then you make it acceptable to attack those you (or your group) decide to be wrong people (say, suppose you're a white supremacist commune), and forfeit any moral justification of tolerance to your own ideology. If you don't have natural law as a principle, then your ideology is self-contradictory and you'll have violence as the main justification anyway (also see USA as a nation, all liberal and moralist around except when it's about natives' rights). If you don't have personal responsibility and freedom of choice as a principle, then you erode any idea of obligation and decency, since obligations and decisions will be imposed by various jerks upon you left and right and you'll learn to discard them. And if you compare imaginary heaven of some ideology to today's real world and think that the result of such a comparison is an indicator of anything, you should see a therapist.

Just look outside and see that this but worse is a terrible idea.

This doesn't mean anything. I pity you if it does for you.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I ain't readin all that

Free Palestine

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Libertarians agree about free Palestine.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Just because we agree on 1 or 2 things does not mean we can start hanging out together at the malt shop.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 hours ago

I prefer disagreeing on philosophy and agreeing on perception of mass murder, than the other way around.

[–] scintilla@crust.piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Your large paragraph has so many fallacies I genuinely don't think you're being serious.

Also go fuck yourself my rights are literally being stripped away so that corporations can own the government more.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

Your large paragraph has so many fallacies I genuinely don’t think you’re being serious.

"So many" is not a number, and you have named zero (0, as in a bagel hole).

Also go fuck yourself my rights are literally being stripped away so that corporations can own the government more.

So what does this have to do with libertarianism? Is it libertarians stripping you of whatever?

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

JD Vance unironically believes in a Neo Feudalist?!

Who's Peter Thiel

Edit: Because downvoting me answers my question

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Peter Thiel

A right-wing billionaire who is responsible for a lot modern evils, but he sometimes likes to pull the "I'm not evil or racist, I am gay, so I can't be".

You may have heard of Facebook, or Palantir, or JD Vance.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Ah Milo Yiannapolous tried similar shit

I have not heard of Palantir

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Those are great questions to start with on your search engine of choice! If you’re more of an audio person, I find this podcast to be a great overview.

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago

The polite version of lmgtfy

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

No thank you, I don't do podcasts

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago

Well, then my favorite search engines are Kagi and DuckDuckGo.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 5 days ago

lucky for you, most information on the internet is in the form of text.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 days ago

Direct ties? They've trip-fagged once on it or something?