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[–] boor@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Please show your math.

One Nvidia H100 DGX AI server consumes 10.2kW at 100% utilization, meaning that ~~one hour’s~~ 42 day's use of one server is equivalent to the electricity consumption of the average USA home in one year. This is just a single 8-GPU server; it excludes the electricity required by the networking and storage hardware elsewhere in the data center, let alone the electricity required to run the facility’s climate control.

xAI alone has deployed hundreds of thousands of H100 or newer GPUs. Let’s SWAG 160K GPUs = ~20K DGX servers = >200MW for compute alone.

H100 is old. State of the art GB200 NVL72 is 120kW per rack.

Musk is targeting not 160K, but literally one million GPUs deployed by the end of this year. He has built multiple new natural gas power plants which he is now operating without any environmental permits or controls, to the detriment of the locals in Memphis.

This is just one company training one typical frontier model. There are many competitors operating at similar scale and sadly the vast majority of their new capacity is running on hydrocarbons because that’s what they can deploy at the scale they need today.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I should have specified it was an earlier llama model. They have scaled up to more then a flight or two. You are mostly right except for how much a house uses. It's about 10,500 kW per year, you're off by a thousand. It uses in an hour about 8 hours of house time, which is still a lot though, specially when you consider musks 1 million gpus.

https://kaspergroesludvigsen.medium.com/facebook-disclose-the-carbon-footprint-of-their-new-llama-models-9629a3c5c28b

Their first model took 2 600 000 kwh, a plane takes about 500 000. The actual napkin math was 5 flights. I had done the math like 2 years ago but yeah, I was mistaken and should have at least specified it was for their first model. Their more recent ones have been a lot more energy intensive I think.

[–] boor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks for catching, you are right that the average USA home is 10.5MWh/year instead of kWh. I was mistaken. :)

Regarding the remainder, my point is that the scale of modern frontier model training, and the total net-new electricity demand that AI is creating is not trivial. Worrying about other traditional sources of CO2 emissions like air travel and so forth is reasonable, but I disagree with the conclusion that AI infrastructure is not a major environmental and climate change concern. The latest projects are on the scale of 2-5GW per site, and the vast majority of that new electricity capacity will come from natural gas or other hydrocarbons.