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Great examples. I grew up in a coop, so that life way really resonates with me. I also feel like actually existing anarchism will be just as different from "on paper" communism or capitalism are from their real world instantiations (that's not to sound pessimistic, but just that it'll probably be different).
There's also the question of what "large scale" anarchism (if that even makes sense) will look like. My opinion is that the daily experience of anarchism will be similar to existing in a coop, and anything at a higher level of collaboration will be some new type of social structure that will rise out of the anarchism practiced at the more human/local levels.
(It could also just be that I lack the boldness of imagination to picture anything too far out of my experience.)p
Sorry if I'm talking past you at all. I kind of read your comment in little bitty breaks over a four hour shift, and just getting around to commenting now. :)
You're not talking past me at all; I really appreciate your points.
In particular, I find the question of large scale anarchism interesting also. This will seem slightly tangenty, but bear with me: I find myself reminded of how there are people who criticise groups who call themselves "Queers for Palestine" by arguing that the people who use this slogan would face significantly more oppression in Palestine than in America. That may or may not be true, but I don't care about that because regardless of the current state of LGBTQ rights in Palestine, it is obvious that being subject to a genocide would put a damper on Palestinians who would be pushing for queer liberation.
Even if Palestine were free, I still wouldn't have much understanding or context to predict what the pathway towards LGBTQ liberation in Palestine would look like, because it would be ignorant to assume that things would take the same path and reach the same endpoint as queer liberation in the US (and given that that battle isn't going to great over here, it seems good that we wouldn't be serving as a direct template for activism and progress in other places of the world). I don't need to know any of this to advocate for people's freedom and self determination though.That's the sweet thing about solidarity — it implicity is a thing that occurs between people who you recognise as being like you in some way (such as through shared plight, or through basic personhood), but are different. There's a sense in surrendering to not knowing the other person, but trusting them to know themselves, and to work together to negotiate a common good.
It's pretty freeing actually, because it means that I don't need to know how to fix the entire world — I can mostly focus on the parts that I know and can meaningfully affect, because that's part of my duty to the world. I do also need to pay some attention to the wider world beyond that which I know, but for that, I mainly need to listen to and work to understand the concerns of people embedded within communities other than my own. If some people are deprived of the opportunity to speak or to build communities then I need to do what I can to fight for their freedom. But beyond that, my duty to the world mostly just involves a lot of listening and waiting to see other people will do.
At risk of muddying things up further with a poorly developed analogy, I think that biology can be a good way to imagine complex organisation. Like, to what extent does a liver cell need to know how the brain is organised? I reckon less so than it would need to understand the arrangement of its fellow hepatocytes within the same tissue. A red blood cell probably wouldn't need to understand how a nucleus works, just that most cells have one that they store their DNA in, but red blood cells don't. It certainly wouldn't need to know about weird mechanistic stuff like nucleoporins (proteins embedded in the nucleus). Anything info that's important can be communicated by hormones, or nerve signals, or stuff embedded in a cells outer membrane (like antigens).
I am more tired than I realised, so that got pretty rambly. I hope you get the vibes I'm trying to convey. As thanks for your patience, enjoy this [TL;DR in a meme format] (https://slrpnk.net/pictrs/image/1a1c7042-d583-464b-8d25-af9e36b57c21.jpeg)
Omg I love it, thank you.
I think your message came across well: we don't need to know every part of a system for it to be a good and working system.
Actually, it would be ridiculous to expect a plan to come fully formed, ready to be rolled out and implemented as-is. I'm sure there will need to be learnings and adaptations along the way, in collaboration with the many different people implementing anarchism.