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What a bunch of cunts.
I wish we could deport all tankie roaches to North Korea (and then do interviews with the few who survived in 3 years).
I’d love to see some of the worse ones volunteer as sunflower fertiliser in Donetsk.
Beats the poor minorities Russia is sending as cannon foder to silence them and entrench Moscovite dominance.
Ie. https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2025/07/26/russian-student-who-planned-to-fight-for-ukraine-faces-terror-charges-after-returning-home-in-prisoner-swap-en-news
russia has finally run out of petroleum reserves to buffer the destruction ukraine has been putting on their pipelines and pump stations. and they're scraping the bottom of the barrel on manpower, sending people on crutches into attacks.
I just hope they can keep it up until vladdy gets pushed out of a fucking window
Sorry, I hate Russia with the heat of a thousand suns, but they are no where near being out of oil. Sanctions have done very little about and have instead created the "dark fleet" of tankers (crude mostly but some products). The dark fleet also includes tankers in the Iranian and Venezuelan trades, but it's up to 10% of all tankers by dwt now. People make very serious money transporting Russian crude and products.
I didn't say that. I said they're out of storage reserves. They've been tapping them to keep the flow of unleaded to their populace. If they had any other option, they wouldn't be letting this happen:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2097894/vladimir-putin-russia-fuel-crisis-petrol-stations
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2025/08/20/fuel-shortages-hit-russias-far-east-as-ukrainian-strikes-take-refineries-offline-a90300
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/23/europe/ukraine-russia-energy-attacks-intl
I'm sure there are strategic reserves set aside for military operations - but for the average ivan driving around the kajillions of sq km's that russia occupies are literally watching the prices climb as they wait in line for a tank of fuel.
they've had to lean really hard on the petroleum industrial complex for exports and to feed the war machine, it's frankly surprising it's taken this long to see it hit the populace.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-putin-orders-government-stabilise-retail-fuel-prices-2023-09-27/
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/8/23/2339902/-Ukraine-Invasion-Day-1-278-UKR-long-range-strikes-campaign-targets-RU-oil-refineries?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNdDDDQ7C1E&ab_channel=Suchomimus
I appreciate the sourcing, but meaning no offense, you are not using industry sources, and this is very much "inside baseball" unless you are in the industry and read the industry sources (or encounter it yourself). To a lesser extent you can trawl OFAC for some public numbers.
It's true that Iran has refined products shortages all the time due to both their limited refining capability and the higher value cargoes (such as gasoil) being sold via the dark fleet.
The dark fleet itself is a massive source of storage for crude, and to a lesser extent, various products. These ships are mostly anchored East of Johor and are Suexmazes or VLCCs, ships like a small mountain.
Iran does re-import some refined products from India and the so-called "teapot refiners" along the Chinese coast, but this is not always enough to meet domestic need. The Iranian government does not give two shits about this due to the fuck ton of money they make off the dark fleet (which then goes to Quds, etc.)
if you have better sources of information, share the sources instead of pontificating to us about your interpretation of them.
This is soooo one of those time I wish I could pull the whole "do you have any idea who I am?" bullshit. Below find some good public sources; I don't have time to get Archive versions of the paywalled stuff at Lloyd's List, Tradewinds, or Shippingwatch, but if the below official sources are not sufficient, let me know and I will.
You could also go straight to the horse's mouth: https://www.eia.gov/international/overview/country/rus If you click through on the full analysis section you'll find a more detailed picture: https://www.eia.gov/international/analysis/country/RUS
You could consult another official horse: https://ofac.treasury.gov/media/933506/download?inline (PDF warning). This one isn't exactly about production like the EIA stuff is, but it will show you the extent to which the Americans have been forced to take extreme measures to try, mostly unsuccessful, to curtail Russian exports. Wikipedia will give you something similar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_fleet It's a long read; scroll down to the section on Russia.
don't worry, I don't care.
cool chart. how's that jive with the miles-long lines for gas?
Best Practices in Response to Recent Developments in the Maritime Oil Trade October 21, 2024
10 months later, I still posit: they've drained the reserves they used to keep civilian petrol flowing.
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/parts-russia-face-gasoline-shortages-after-ukraine-struck-refineries-2025-08-21/
think, for a moment: if they had the ability, wouldn't they still be exporting?
"Russia imposed a gasoline exports ban for oil producers on July 28 in a bid to prevent shortages at a time of peak demand because of summer travel and grain harvesting. But some market participants said this will not be enough to avert a fuel crunch."
I make no assumptions on who you are, I only judge based on the reality we're seeing on the ground and the halting of exports when they desperately need the funds. I know this does not necessarily discount shadow fleet economics but it cannot be helping the situation either. I think, in this case, it's more important to judge the reality on the ground than the reality 10 months ago.
What ever on earth makes you think they are halting exports, especially of crude? I can show you on a map where they are and where they came from right now.
Just because they have l local shortages doesn't mean they have stopped exports.
When you buy crude/products you often put it into storage, sometimes large amounts, and wait for the market to bounce up (or your other forward positions/hedging to clear). The crude and products exist: they are just not being used in the local market. In the case of Russia, to maintain funding for their war time economy.
Whatever, if you actually want info, DM me, I'll connect on LinkedIn and share images and docs.
we're just talking past each other. you're focus on crude exports continues to miss my point:
they ain't got no gas in half the country. you don't need to explain the fuel production cycle, crude's a shit export compared to refined fuels and when you have gas lines stretching miles, people don't give a fuck how much crude's being exported by the shadow fleet of temu-tankers russia has falling apart all over the fuckin' oceans.
I don't want to dm you, I don't want to continue talking about crude production or export because that's not what I'm talking about, I'm talking about fuel available to ivan q ivanovich and how long the country can suffer without a stable supply of fuel to burn.
you can produce oceans of crude, if none of it gets refined and put into the tanks at gas stations, lot of fucking good it'll do you.
I doubt they would even get that far.
They would probably be interned and tortured to death by some fucked up russian goons for being "American Spies".
Shouting "Lemmygrad! I support russia!!!!" (in english) is not going to be much help to them.
yeah but it'd be funny as fuck
A while back it was shown that while most of the the fediverse was clear for access in places like russia and china, the triad were not. Which became a meme for a bit. Don't know if this is still true though.
that is quite chortleworthy
Yeah, like they could at least try to learn how to communicate in the native tongue of the average Russian soldier, it's not hard. "cyka blyat" covers about 50% of the necessary vocabulary on its own, although granted it is true that for true fluency some of the resulting grammatical constructs can get fascinatingly complex.
Sunflower fertilizer?
An old Ukrainian woman gave a bunch of the Russian occupiers sunflower seeds early in the war, telling them to put it in their pocket so that when the Russians inevitably got killed, sunflowers would grow from their corpse. A way of saying that all they'll be good for is being fertilizer for Ukraine's many beautiful sunflowers.
This is a very famous video in Ukraine.
Ukraine is the largest producer of sunflowers in the world. This is important due to the oils, livestock feed, and seed grains, they produce.
It's a term to refer to soldiers who die in Ukraine
There was a buch of INLA (communist IRA) guys who went to NK to train with the DPRK army to learn who to fight the Brits. It didn't end well. They where hungry and most lost faith in socialist ideology. if the system were to work anywhere it would be there but everyone was starving.
Is there a story i can read somewhere? That sound interesting.
I got it from a podcast. I my have missed remembered some of the facts but you get the jist.
The BelTel: The Official IRA’s ‘training’ trip to North Korea
Episode webpage: https://shows.acast.com/the-beltel/episodes/the-official-iras-training-trip-to-north-korea
If you want a dramatisation of a similar story (set in the USSR), check out East/West.
It's a pretty depressing movie, but it's well made and the story is compelling.
Just checking, you're not calling for violence against them are you?
If he's not, I am
can you not?
Okay I will not
I am calling for them to get first hand experience of North Korea. If what they say about NK is true, then it should be like a permanent vacation in Hawaii.
But you are dehumanizing people with a different political ideology by calling them roaches (repeatedly). Why tho? You do realize that‘s shit that fascists do. Are you a fascist? You do sound like a Nazi talking about Jews; or a Zionist talking about Palestinians. Why do you do that?
Why wouldn't I call tankies that support genocidal imperialism, white-wash russian war crimes and reject the notion of self-determination for Ukrainians, roaches? They lack humanity, do they not?
Insulting degenerate tankie roaches is not Nazism!
Alright, so you agree that you do dehumanize people you don‘t like (for whatever reason) and are proud of doing so, because you think you are doing it for the right reasons? Just like any fascist, thanks for clearing that up. Or do you have trouble understanding the concept of dehumanization? Also, @goat@sh.itjust.works, I rest my case.
Sure, sure, hate crimes against tankies! The true challenge of our time!
You should call your local NGO and police and explain to them about that hate crimes against tankies! Record the audio and post it on MOG!
You're pathetic!
Ridicule me however you want, you‘re still the one happily using fascist language.
Well you didn't rest your case, you completely abandoned it
But regardless, if you take issue with the language used, then surely you also take issue with the language that Tankies and Hexbear use?
I know it seems super complicated, but how about you stay focused on the criticism put forward, instead of defaulting to whataboutism?
We are here right now to talk about the fascist, hateful and willful ignorant culture of your community (which has been my case all along, thanks for linking to the previous thread, although randomly towards the end) in this very thread, today by the example of this fabulous being I confronted up there.
Why do you have such a hard time to engage with that criticism? Is it because you enjoy fascist company? Do you condemn dehumanizing language being used in your community?
bruh you can't say don't use whataboutism when Tankies are already the topic. It's stuff like this which is why no one here is taking you seriously.
I'll condemn it when you also condemn the language used by Tankies and their communities. I'm not going to entertain you with liberalism when you're so overtly opposed to it. It should be easy for you if you're so touchy about language and dehumanisation. Or is there a special exception made for Tankies and not for liberals?
bruh, we never talked about tankies or liberals, stay on topic. We‘re talking about the abhorrent nature of this very community. Are you saying you people are unable to act human, as long as there are other entities out there that don‘t do that? What kind of dumb argument is that? Don‘t you have some kind of self-efficacy?
This is not about tankies or any other funny category of people, it is sorely about the toxic nature of your community.
Why would I have to condemn anything I have nothing to do with, in order for you to grow some metaphorical balls and condemn rotten behaviour in the very community you are moderating?
„I‘ll condemn when you condemn“ - bruh, I‘m not 13 anymore, what is this dumb shit?
Why are you acting so cowardly? Show how proud you are: „We here on (group) are closet-facsists and proud of it! Fuck them (insert hated group), they are roaches and we want them gone.“ Own up to it at least, fascism is en vogue again, nobody’s gonna jail you for it. But at least be honest about it, and towards yourself.
This is the parent comment. What does it say? Does it mention tankies?
This is the comment you replied to. Who are "they" in this context?
Once again you fail to engage with the criticism, you bore me to death.
You trying to argument, that because this little fascist up there was talking about (group of people), that calling out the fascist language they used to describe said group, is off-topic? I was setting the topic in this thread by calling out his dehumanizing rhetoric. Get a grip.
Come on goat, be a bit more honest. Else we‘re done for now, because this is getting embarrassing.