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Facial recognition technology not about ‘total surveillance society’ – minister
(www.standard.co.uk)
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Mate you are not being coherent.
The point here is whether western digital privacy is superior to Chinese digital privacy. What you have not caught up on is the fact that Chinese digital privacy has significantly surpassed the west and you are too much of a racist west-supremacist to take on new information that contradicts your supremacist ideology. You spent so much time on reddit internalising the concept that dem sneaky chinese are lies and cheats that your brain just completely shuts down at the very idea that they might be doing it better than the superior white west that deserves supremacy. This is the ideology guiding your thought process.
The only thought you have in your head is "china = mass surveillance" and "west = superior". You have nothing going for you beyond that, it's entirely vibes based which is what makes it so obvious it's a thought created by propaganda. On the otherhand I could talk quite precisely about the information we have on five eyes, nsa and gchq mass surveillance. The UK's use of face recognition. Palantir. Snowden. And so on. China? No evidence. All you've got is "they censor the internet" which, funnily enough, the UK that I'm cursed to be stuck in is doing significantly fucking more.
This provides evidence for a hypothesis I had a few months(years?) back. That as conditions in the west worsen, people in the west will just insist that the "bad guy countries" are worse, regardless of evidence or material reality. It really does look like as the survalliance state increases and worker's and minority rights collapse in the west, westerners will still be insisting it is "fine" because evil China is even worse. "We may be forced by our capitalist overlords to work 24 hours a day, but those damn evil chinese commies force their people to work 25 hours a day!"
No, I'm saying that you clearly have fallen for the idea that no matter how awful things get in the west, the west's enemies must always be just as bad or worse. You think you're the reasonable one here, doing a "both sides" thing, but you're not. You're falling for bullshit, and think it makes you a genius because you can "see both sides" (but oddly are only ever supporting one side in that).
No one here is saying China is a utopia, I think that's the problem you're having here. People are saying that quality of life in China is improving, while it is getting worse in the west, and in some areas (like surveillance) the west is now worse than China and will continue to get worse over time. This isn't because of some mindless "pro-China" attitude, but pattern recognition and an understanding of how a socialist government acts vs capitalist governments.