Which part of the article claimed it fried a monkey brain? I read the whole thing and got “came loose” and “caused internal bleeding” once, but nothing about it frying a brain.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I wasn't being literal. Isn't it bad enough that it killed them? Do you have to nitpick exactly HOW Musk's crappy chip is going to kill a lot of people?

[–] Ghostbanjo1949@lemmy.mengsk.org 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's about nitpicking it's about being honest.

[+] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world -6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"Frying" is a common dramatic shorthand for destroying the brain in any way. That you're unfamiliar with the expression doesn't make me dishonest.

[–] Ghostbanjo1949@lemmy.mengsk.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No your misuse of the phrase does. If a person suffers a physical brain injury, as dramatic for instance as a metal rod getting shot into their brain leaving them disabled, you don't say their brain was fried. It's used primarily to describe chemical issues with the brain, such as a person who used a bit too many drugs and their brain is now impaired because of it. The primates in the article suffered issues caused by the physical installation of the chip, not from the functioning of the chip. Therefore not fried.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The primates in the article suffered issues caused by the physical installation of the chip, not from the functioning of the chip.

And you're calling ME dishonest? 🤦

Another macaque mentioned — known as Animal 15 — “began to press her head against the floor for no apparent reason” days after receiving the implant, and her condition only went downhill from there:

Animal 15 began to lose coordination and staff observed that she would shake uncontrollably when she saw lab workers. Her condition deteriorated for months until the staff finally euthanized her. A necropsy report indicates that she had bleeding in her brain and that the Neuralink implants left parts of her cerebral cortex “focally tattered.”

Does that sound like a fucking installation issue to you?

Also, even if it WAS, they left that bad "installation" for MONTHS and you'd trust those fuckers to put anything in your brain? I guess "death by fanboying too hard" is ONE way to go..

[–] Ghostbanjo1949@lemmy.mengsk.org 0 points 11 months ago

Yes I would say that the brain bleeding is probably a physical installation issue, not frying the brain.

I think though you're reading more into my comments than are there. I've not said I'm for getting a chip in my brain nor anyone else's, including the primates. My comment was around the point that if you are going to argue or fight something, you need to be honest on how you do it. Your clear emotional response to this is keeping you from seeing that. Over sensationalizing or misrepresenting the facts doesn't help your stance. The truth here is that they really messed up at least a couple of times with the physical installation of the chips, that led to a degradation in the quality of life of the test subjects and eventually death. But not anything that would be like "frying" someone's brain. And that, those facts alone should give one pause before signing up for anything like this. Especially when you consider, no matter who or what company pursues this, this is bound to happen. Any new hardware or software fails during at least development let alone post release so it's not surprising at all these results occurred, considering what they are doing. I'd imagine if this chip functions as it should, the only people that would consider it, currently at least, would be those without any other option and their quality of life is already dismal due to their health issues.

[–] money_loo@1337lemmy.com -3 points 11 months ago

My bad bro, I thought it was literal because the way you said it…and yes it’s terrible that it killed a few monkeys, but that’s literally how most medical and even cosmetic science works, please don’t ever look into it if you’re actually concerned for the animals and not just frothing and seething because your trigger word was used.