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[–] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

No, it's even worse than people realize.

This isn't just about ad-blocking; it's about computer owners' fundamental property rights (or lack thereof). It shouldn't fucking matter if the ad-blocker modifies the website's code, because both pieces of software are running on the owner's machine and he has the right to modify his property in any way he sees fit.

It is no different than a book owner crossing out printed text and writing in the margins: that copy of the book is his to modify as he wants, and copyright doesn't fucking enter into it at all because there's no copying or distribution happening to begin with.

What the German court gas done here is opened the door to copyright holders trying to colonize shit they don't own, stealing control from the actual owners.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I agree: website owners cannot tell people how to read their sites.

But they only re-opened the case; nothing happened yet.

And considering how the very similar youtube-dl DMCA takedown failed so utterly, I don't think this will go anywhere either.

But yeah, companies will try again and again.

There's also an important point not addressed in the above comment: Springer is specifically sueing Adblock Plus (and not the way more popular uBO) who have a commercial model where companies can pay them to let their ads through, and some other fishy practices.

PS:

Somebody else in yet another post said it even better:

Let’s take a deep breath and consider what’s happened. The Federal Court of Justice has sent the case back to the lower court. They have not ruled on anything. They have not said ad blocking is piracy. They have essentially said: lower court, you had 25 boxes to tick but you only ticked 24 in your ruling. Go back and do one that ticks all of them.

It’s entirely possible that the lower court will change its ruling based on the intricacies of German copyright law, which is shit. But it’s not very likely if you ask me. Regardless, whoever loses will appeal it again. This rodeo is far from over. And when it’s eventually over the technology will have moved on, with any luck the law along with it, and the only beneficiaries will have been the lawyers.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

But see, that's what I'm saying: the court was wrong to consider that 25th box a thing that needed ticking to begin with. There was nothing that needed re-opening because if the computer owner's property rights were as secure as they're supposed to be, the reason given for sending the case back to the lower court should've been considered irrelevant!

Even just the mere act of re-opening the case indicates the court's contempt for computer owners' property rights.