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22 days suspension without pay to 2 days.

Thank god for the justice system

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[–] keyhoh@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

While I can understand that proper procedure was violated and this caused the reduction, these officers failed to do their duty properly and were caught. The criminal who passed did have two outstanding warrants. It seems to me like everybody sucks here, but the cops shouldn't have gotten off so lightly with that suspension reduction.

[–] gonzo-rand19@moist.catsweat.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So having warrants (no trial or conviction, btw) means you deserve to die? That sounds really fucked up and inhumane, so I'm just asking for clarification. This isn't AITA, a person is dead.

[–] keyhoh@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago

I don't recall saying he deserved to die. You're putting words in my mouth.

I dug some more online and discovered he died from heart failure due to cocaine in his system after partying all night. He was pulled over at 7:45am and hadn't slept yet. The guy seems to have made many poor choices and they caught up with him.

The cops here sucked, and this guy's choices sucked. The cops deserved a much harsher penalty. The guy didn't deserve to die due to cop negligence, and his death wasn't a direct result of the negligence. He fafo'd with the limits of his body.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago

hacksaw is a fuckin troll. Just mute them and move on with your life eh

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"the criminal who passed" ... You must write newspaper headlines for the Gaza genocide. I'm disgusted by your use of the passive voice.

These officers acted with criminal negligence leading to the death of an innocent (unless you don't believe in innocent until proven guilty) person in their care. Anyone else would be in jail. The police lose 2 days of pay.

[–] keyhoh@piefed.social 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

Did you read the article? The alleged criminal had sickle cell anemia but did not die from complications of that. The officers neglected to log that medical issue and did not allow him to get his medication for anemia.

I dug a little bit more for you Hacksaw. The guy was pulled over at 7:45 in the morning. He had been partying all night in a different city and hadn't slept as he and his friend drove to Montreal after partying all night long. His cause of death was heart failure due to cocaine in his system. He was 23 and already had two outstanding warrants. I couldn't find it what those were for, only that they were not related to weapons.

I'm firmly of the belief that acab. Well, 90% of them anyways. This dude, while not dangerous, was also not an upstanding citizen. He died from his poor choices.

I hope you learn to get as much info as you can before you go blasting people online. For the record, I volunteered in loss and bereavement for 8 years. "Passed" is a preferred term for the deceased.

Edited for an autocorrect error.

[–] Hacksaw@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You may already know this, but the number one cause of death for people who live with sickle cell anemia is heart failure. Medication is an important part of mitigating this eventual set of fatal heart complications.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7417280/

Of course doing cocaine and partying all night isn't going to be good for the heart, but preventing someone with complex medical needs in your care/custody from accessing their life saving medication is criminal negligence. Dying from heart failure is a known complication of sickle cell anemia and is generally preventable with medical care.

Again, anyone else with a duty of care over someone who contributes to their death by preventing them from accessing their medication would be in jail. Only cops get away with this kind of criminal behaviour with what's basically a slap on the wrists. Never in a million years would a parent, or a nurse get away with doing the same thing.

Apparently you think ACAB unless they murder someone through criminal negligence, then "both sides are bad".

My issue wasn't with your use of "passed" it was with your use of the passive voice in a situation where the death was directly caused by the active failure of the police to meet their duty of care. Their negligence directly killed an innocent person, or as you put it an "alleged criminal". Maybe you don't think those are the same thing.

[–] keyhoh@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago

I certainly don't feel like all cops are bad unless they let people die. I don't know how you got that interpretation. I said the cops didn't do their job and deserved a harsher penalty for failing to do so. I meant that not just for the two cops in the story, but for all their peers to witness the consequences of dereliction of duty too.

I also said this young man didn't die due to the cops' negligence, but to his own poor choices. He knew that medication was important and didn't bring it. He knew sickle cell anemia weakened his organs. And he knew that his choices that night weren't good for his body, especially with his condition. He chose to do all the things he did anyways, and he paid the ultimate price. Is this sad, yes. Is this preventable, also yes. Did he make the choices he needed to make to ensure his safety? No. He was found motionless less than an hour after being detained, and pronounced dead less than an hour after that. He was more than two hours away from home and his meds.

I see this as being not much different than lathering one's self up in blood and taking a walk through the savannah. Sure there's a chance you'll make it out the other end ok, but most times not. Is it the lions fault that person died, or is it their own fault for not heeding warnings and making unsafe choices?

We all know what our system is. We need to keep that in mind if we do things that risk running afoul of it (And no, I don't like our system much either, hence the acab statement). If we fail to heed the warnings of our family, friends, doctors and news outlets, well then we shouldn't be so surprised when Darwinism happens.