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[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's not that I don't pay attention or try to conserve energy, but I'm so powerless to affect real change. It kills me to be raising children in this world.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Exactly. You try to conserve water and use less power to try to help the planet, meanwhile Elon Musk is burning several million tons of gas to run Grok.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Try out meat free Mondays.

They'll stop factory farming so much if less people buy meat.

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, they'll just start a new anti-vegan anti-vegetarian campaign and everyone will eat it up.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Okay but you can control your own actions. Don't you want to be better than all the sheeple? Or do you want to be bad because they're just as bad?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's more that "meat free Monday" will do nothing whatsoever, the problem is pollution from large corporations

It will do something. The demand for meat will fall, the more people who don't eat meat. Defeatism is not only unhelpful, it's also wrong.

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Exactly. But hey, use paper a straw and lie to yourself that you're having an impact lol.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you're saying demand for meat will fall by exactly 0%? The local grocery store will have exactly the same number of people buying the same amount of meat?

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Consumer demand does not, in fact, make a dent on emissions. Corporations buying from each other is what does.

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Consumer demand never makes a dent on emissions? So if everyone in your city became a vegan overnight, the grocery store would keep on buying the same amount of meat and letting it rot on the shelves?

Wow, I should start selling bridges to grocery store managers

[–] SalamenceFury@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

One, that's not a realistic scenario. Two, companies make more money by selling to other companies, not us. This whole thing of blaming the regular people for excess waste and pollution was a ploy by companies to get away with it.

During the pandemic, even tho nobody was using their cars, the amount of pollution from fossil fuels didn't change at all. It was statistically insignificant. That's enough proof to me that blaming us for the sins of unregulated industries is stupid.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I generally agree with your first point, but you are wrong about pandemic pollution levels.

Did you miss the massive amount of environmental clearing up that happened during the pandemic? Sure, right after we went straight back up to previous levels, but during it, it was severely reduced

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I'm already vegetarian, so I'm controlling my actions just fine. I just also see how angry everyone gets when they find out that I don't eat meat, despite it having basically no impact on them.

[–] Bosht@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I feel you, I'm in the same boat. They constantly preach this shit at us but without major systemic change we're fucked. So we get to just listen to people blasting it continuously stressing us out on the incoming Armageddon with little else we can do except 'hurr eat less meat and make sure to recycle!'