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Remaining illegally in the country is a crime. When you say not a criminal, it's not just not a violent criminal. Easy enough to say she's not a violent criminal.
Remaining illegally in the country is not a crime. It’s a civil offense. It does not make someone a criminal.
Don’t be an asshat.
You used the very word "illegally". It's a crime.
No, it's a tort. A crime is a criminal offense. A tort is a civil offense. Both are illegal, meaning against the law, but whether that is civil or criminal law is the distinction.
Unless you use the word criminal for people who jaywalk (the same level of ‘crime’ as illegal immigration: a misdemeanor) then you’re being selective about which misdemeanors make you a criminal. Which is suspect.
Read up on what law is actually about sometime.
Here, lemmy help you.
She may have been here legally or even a US citizen. They're not making that distinction anymore. Shit, they're even saying natural born citizens aren't legal.
That's certainly a possibility and a horrific consequence of ICE basically becoming brown shirts. However it's certainly a better defense than "not a criminal", so if they had that information they would have said she was here legally and this was a massive violation of rights.
It is not a crime, it is a misdemeanor.
One and the same. Felony and Misdemeanor are just two classes of crime.
Criminal vs civil violations. Do you think driving with a burned out light somewhere on your vehicle is criminal behavior that makes you a criminal?