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You should jump into the other threads about this before you take out your pitchforks. They’re using cursor, it doesn’t prove they are vibe coding. Visual Studio also has AI features, that doesn’t mean you are vibe coding.
Cursor is literally marketed as "The AI Code Editor". I am not sure why anyone would use an AI code editor if they aren't planning on vibe coding.
Proton is, in my opinion, a bad privacy company anyway. Vibe code or not, stop paying them.
Vibe coding means only looking at the results of running a program generated by an agentic LLM tool, not the program itself - and it often doesn't work well even with current state-of-the-art models (because once the program no longer fits in the context size of the LLM, the tools often struggle).
But the more common way to use these tools is to solve smaller tasks than building the whole program, and having a human in the loop to review that the code makes sense (and fix any problems with the AI generated code).
I'd say it is probably far more likely they are using it in that more common way.
That said, I certainly agree with you that some of Proton's practices are not privacy friendly. For example, I know that for their mail product, if you sign up with them, they scan all emails to see if they look like email verification emails, and block your account unless you link it to another non throw-away email. The CEO and company social media accounts also heaped praise on Trump (although they tried to walk that back and say it was a 'misunderstanding' later).
Unfortunately so is Visual Studio and VS Code, yet we don't say anything made with them is 'vibe coded'. The text, big and bold, right the top of the screen for VS Code is literally:
either use vim or bust :)
Ok, but VS has been around MUCH longer and has been widely used long before any AI features were added. People who have been using VS for years, aren't likely to just switch, especially in professional environments where VS has largely dominated.
Cursor OTOH, was specifically made to leverage AI. You don't just start using Cursor.
Depends on leadership. A bunch of slop loving execs think having the newest AI tool will make them be ahead of the curve
Some people like it for the ui and they recently announced the ability to turn off all ai features.
See my comment here.