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ok fair enough. i still have some misgivings abt his credentials and cba with a book promo episode but that sounds better than i assumed it would be.
Yeah, I think a basic mistrust of someone who writes for the Guardian (etc.) is a reasonable place to start at, I just don't think Chapo would have on a DNC ghoul to pitch their audience on "107 Days" and instead thought that this guy's takes on how America is not a real democracy and we should make it a real democracy were worth sharing, even if he's more libbed up than we are in many ways (though the way that he spoke about workplace democracy and such makes me think he's at least a solid demsoc). I also agree with you that some of the pandering wordings were gross, but to put it in context it might be worth revisit Frederick Douglass's "The Meaning of the Fourth of July to the Negro," where he starts off with pages of jerking off the Founders but then excoriates them and everyone else in a way completely unheard of in modern America's mainstream political discourse. It's at least true that the demonic Founders were somewhat progressive in their revolution for their opposition to monarchy and opposition to explicit, codified theocracy, and I think it's fair enough to recognize things like that so long as you maintain the context of slavery, opposition to "unfettered" democracy, patriarchy, etc.