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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

There were also Swiss and Italian visitors detained.

Congratulations Italians, your honorary whiteness has been revoked and you have been demoted to the "swarthy" category once more. We really are just reinventing OLD SCHOOL racism again.

Never thought I would see the day when anti-Italian racism might actually become a thing again lmao. The Swiss lady was detained most likely because of social media posts about Palestine.

I will never forget this quote from Ben Franklin

Why should the Palatine Boors be suffered to swarm into our Settlements, and by herding together establish their Language and Manners to the Exclusion of ours? Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion.

Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.

That's right Ben fucking Franklin thought Germans were not white enough lmao

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Imagine being so racist that Germans and Swedes are not white enough for you.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 25 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Reminds me of Pierce Hawthorne's dad in Community, he said something like "Swedish dogs, you're tainted by race mixing with Laplanders. You're practically Finnish!" Which meant absolutely nothing to me at the time the episode aired but now I realize is a callback to Ben Franklin era racism

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I've recently read a book by Maciej Górny, where he in particular described how pre-WWI European scientists strived to prove that everyone to their east and south are Mongols actually. British called French Mongols, French called Germans Mongols, Germans and Swedes called Poles and Finns Mongols, Poles and Finns called Russians Mongols and Russians had to alternate between calling Mongols Mongols and saying "we are Mongols and it is based actually".

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 weeks ago

also "leslie" i can "excuse racism, but i draw the line on animal cruelty(place holder for conservatives for whatever is political convenient for them)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

probably British white. also not the caucasian whites for some reason like russians.