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this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2025
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Do y'all hate chess engines?
If yes, cool.
If no, I think you hate tech companies more than you hate AI specifically.
Yup, as always, none of these problems are inherent to AI itself, they're all problems with capitalism.
I had to check to make sure I was in the right app. Rational discussion on my Lemmy? No way.
But yes. The machine can't take responsibility for shit. You hate the people and what they are doing to you. If AI didn't exist, they do it somehow else
I do hate those people. They built an awful technology and are subjecting the world to its cancer.
It's possible to hate people doing and things, and the tools they use to do those as well.
Here. Let me make you feel more at home. Obviously all the AI data centers should be nationalized and the owners of OpenAI sent to gulags. The data centers will be requisitioned by a new state central planning committee for purposes of economic management. /s
I fail to see the problem.
Ah, lemmy.ml.
"Speak the Devil's name and he shall appear." :D
Imagine defending private property and capitalism and then thinking you aren't the devil.
None of them are inherent to capitalism either.
Facts and history disagree
What facts and history?
The post is pretty clearly* about genAI, I think you're just choosing to ignore that part. There's plenty of really awesome machine learning technology that helps with disabilities, doesn't rip off artists and isn't environmentally deleterious.
The distinction between AI and GenAI is meaningless; they are buzzwords for the same underlying tech.
So is trying to bucket them based on copyright violation: there are very powerful, open dataset, more or less reproducible LLMs trained and runnable on a trivial amount of electricity you can run on your own PC right now.
Same with use cases. One can use embeddings models or tiny resnets to kill. People do, in fact, like with Palantir's generative free recognition models. At the other extreme, LLMs can be totally task focused and useless at anything else.
The distinction is corporate/enshittified vs not. Like Reddit vs Lemmy.
You know this is a stupid take, right? You know that chatgpt and Stockfish, while both being forms of "artificial intelligence," are wildly incomparable, yeah? This is like saying "the distinction between an ICBM and the Saturn-V is meaningless, because they both use the same underlying tech"
You know that transformer and diffussion models, while both being forms of "GenAI," are wildly incomparable, yeah?
That first claim makes no sense and you make no argument to back it up. The distinction is actually quite meaningful; generative AI generates new samples from an existing distribution, be it text, audio, images, or anything else. Other forms of AI solve numerous problems in different ways, such as identifying patterns we can't or inventing novel and more optimal solutions.
The distinction between AI and GenAI is like the difference between eating and cannibalism; one contains the other, but there's still a meaningful distinction.
Generative AI produces text or images by leveraging huge neural networks weighted by tons and tons of training data. It's fundamentally a system of guesses and vibes.
Machine learning in general is often much more precise. The model finding early cancer in scans isn't just guessing the next word, it's running the image through a series of precisely tuned layers.
The industry term for the distinction is supervised vs unsupervised learning.
It's like saying hard drives are bad because of what you can store on them
Genuinely doubt the tech used to control Zerg is the same tech used to generate an essay about elephant which contain numerous misinformation. AI lately is being used liberally, which lost their meaning.
I dunno, agree to disagree.
I lose to stockfish 2. Yes.