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[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 44 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Is there any European nation that favors freedom of press?

I was planning on emigrating there, due to LGBTQIA+ rights, metros, and elevation. But this has soured my choice.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd say that European nations have a different understanding of press freedom. Mind that the individual nations have different attitudes toward this.

In Germany, press means mainly newspapers. The publishers owning these papers are very keen on copyright enforcement. Copyright does conflict with freedom of information but, I think, most would not see a conflict with press freedom.

The EU is determined to regulate who is allowed to use data for what purpose and to create the legal tools to enforce that. That's not limited to copyright. I'm very worried about that trend on many levels.

But I don't think Yuri creators will face problems in most EU countries in the foreseeable future.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

But blocking Anna's Archive, Libgen, OceanofPDF, Z-Library, and the Internet Archive's Open Library is such a terrible way to express that you hate press.

Science and academics should be freely pressed, without the authoritarianism of copyright. If my yuri koma was discussing prion synthesis, one shouldn’t deter me for referencing the journal.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. It is a big problem for Europe. I don't expect that it will be fixed in the foreseeable future. In fact, it is being made worse in many ways.

You may reference and quote journal articles. That's something I expect will stay allowed.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you're saying not even Norway will free press😭

[–] possumparty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Norway killed a walrus bc it was sinking boats by sitting on them :(

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 4 points 1 week ago

😭 the walrus did nothing wrong😭
down with capitalism!✊🏿🦭

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can see how trully Freedom-loving mainstream Liberal parties are, even in Europe, by looking at the domains were Freedom Of Ideas clashes with Ideas As Property such as science publishing: almost all of those "Liberal" mainstream parties side with the Owner Class in expanding and increasing enforcement of the "though shall not share without paying" Intellectual Property laws that let some make money of something they are only able to own due to such laws (those laws are literally anti-natura in that ideas are naturally shared), rather than with the natural freedom of sharing.

The way States support and impose Intellectual Property is really just a facet of the broader societal problem of politics in Capitalist nations (even those disguised as "Democracy") not really working for the many.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

those laws are literally anti-natura in that ideas are naturally shared

Bludgeoned heads are pro-natura, but not very good.

is really just a facet of the broader societal problem of politics in Capitalist nations (even those disguised as “Democracy”)

In Democratic Kampuchea, on the other hand, there was no intellectual property. Everything intellectual was forbidden and punishable by death, in fact, even eyeglasses, even knowing how to read and write (except if you were an official, or a railway worker, or an ambassador, or someone similarly necessary).

All you had to do was work, and your Khmer blood would lead you on, all Blut und Boden.

Sorry, just watched The Killing Fields yesterday and remembered of ... that.

Your arguments could be more persuasive if you'd drop that "capitalist vs socialist" stuff, outside of golden billion countries it doesn't work very well.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow, your entire "argument" is literally nothing more than a collection of Strawmen, False Dichotomy Falacies and McCarthist-style slogans (yeah, sure mate, any critique of anything at all in modern Capitalism must be "Socialism").

Five paragraphs of tribalist muppet kneejerk slogans deployed in defense of the notion that Ideas should be Property, no less.

Only Socialists would want to have published Scientific Papers freely available to all and for there to be archives of published digital works in the day and age of zero cost publishing and distribution on the Internet: the evils of Socialism can only be avoid if for absolutelly everything, somebody somewhere is getting paid.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 week ago

This is unreadable, due to German capitalization in English text in part, but also due to pure inadequacy.

I shared my associations with what you said, and then expressed my actual point in one sentence.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

you can't just emigrate to somewhere. (are you nihon jin?)
Curious about your elevation point, since we (with NL) are called the low countries.
Flat as a pancake except for some Ardennes, which are nice.
If it's for climate stuff you should know this means we are on or just above sea level, and some even below.
We do get high a lot tho.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago

nihon jin?)

ja

Curious about your elevation point

Over 60+meters above sea level, expecting all the glaciers melt after 3.0°C

I’m aware how lengthy and unaccepting emigrations are throughout Europe. I know at minimum it takes 6months to 3 years to validate permanent residency.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In The Netherlands we still have a freedom of press: https://www.rijksoverheid.nl/onderwerpen/media-en-publieke-omroep/persvrijheid-bewaken and we are also progressive on the LGBTQ+ front.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

LOL Try saying something about Palestine

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There are enough articles about it and you can just post it.

But there is a group that will be aggressive towards you, yeah that is a growing tread. Mostly because of the extreme left and right growing ... It is still art. 8 of our constitution which is very hard to chance

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The way it’s portrayed online you’d think the Netherlands is the most civilized society ever formed by humankind. I know that nowhere is perfect, but it does seem like a really nice place to live. If only the language weren’t so silly.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But it's Netherlands.

They haven’t built mountains, and it will get resubmerged. It’s the deelevation/sinking that I haven't emigrated foremost. Everything else, yes, I want to become a citizen for.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Only half of the country is below sea level tbf

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Come and visit me often then in Brussels & Wallonia. We can picnic @ Wilhelminatoren often.

I don't see many listings in Vaalserbergweg.

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for the offer, but I recently bought a house in NL decently close to the BE/NL border, so I'll be visiting your country enough :P

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago

😘🫂💕🥰

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd expect it to be cracked down entirely within the next 2-3 years. The EU has wet dreams of absolute control

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Many places in Europe are wonderful. Generally speaking I think you're quite fine when it comes to LGBT rights, especially in the Western countries, and metros and public transportation in general are commonplace, but I wouldn't expect free internet and freedom of expression to be around in a handful years.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’ll work to free internet and expression.

Thanks.

[–] KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 3 points 1 week ago

You and me both. Good luck!

[–] YknsNMo000@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Intellectual property is stupid, but I don't know why you would blame belgium especially here. The whole world signed threaty regarding copyrights.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you asking me why I don't want Belgium bereft off international knowledge their physical libraries do not possess?

[–] YknsNMo000@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. Belgium just implements laws here. The law is wrong but it's imposed from the top. Blame the very concept of "intellectual property"

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] YknsNMo000@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago

<3 Belgium is fine. The exact same dynamics happens here as somewhere else. But you'd be very welcome (at least by me ahah)

[–] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In France, you have the choice between public press (depending a lot on the president in place thanks to his tax cut), you have capitalist propaganda, more or less obviously fascist, and that's it for the TV. On the web you have Blast, le Média, Frustration Magasine, or Humanity in paper if you want leftist media.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m aware of French freedom to be lynched. I’m asking if there are freer nations I can write yuri in, that won't persecute my sapphic heart🧡🤍💜.

[–] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess Yuri is good for now. Just don't get your hopes to high, 2027 election will be a weird ride I guess

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then I'll be voting extremely anarchistic once I emigrate, and repeal these authoritarian laws.

I had considered Norway, until they signed WIPO.

[–] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

193 countries have signed WIPO, and those that haven't generally have political problems or are third world, unfortunately I don't see a way out of that one if you don't want to compromise something else for it

[–] richardwallass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is the point with Internet archive & Belgium in your post?

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago

Freedom of information in the internet. Belgium should not have made this law, or enforced it. It's one thing to have a law in your nation for wild card situations, but this is about not allowing Belgians access to information outside their libraries that may contradict state narratives & agendas.