this post was submitted on 07 Dec 2023
539 points (87.8% liked)

Asklemmy

43962 readers
1915 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Calling 12-yo's takes "unique" is certainly one way to phrase it.

Why is that life experience less valid at 12 than at 18? Why is life experience necessary at all?

Because you have to set the bar somewhere.

The average 12 year old is perfectly capable of understanding complex topics and making informed decisions.

Have you actually met any 12-year-olds? Their understanding of stuff is retarded.

[โ€“] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm happy to debate this with you, but that's the second time you've used a slur disparaging people with disabilites. Hope your day is as pleasant as you are.

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What, do you mean retard? Does it mean something other than mentally retarded or what's the issue

[โ€“] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It is an outdated term for intellectually disabled, and using it when you mean "stupid" is offensive. Intellectual disability is not the same as intelligence. Calling someone disabled as an insult is offensive. People with disabilities are not lesser than you, and it is the height of arrogance to look down upon people who overcome adversity to educate themselves while simultaneously being objectively wrong and demonstrably ignorant on the subject.

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Intellectual disability (ID), also known as general learning disability in the United Kingdom[3] and formerly mental retardation,[4][5] is a generalized neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significantly impaired intellectual and adaptive functioning. It is defined by an IQ under 70, in addition to deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors that affect everyday, general living.

I'm saying they are intellectually deficit compared even to the average adult. Would you be happier if I called them illectually disabled? Dunno what that even changes.

[โ€“] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, because they aren't intellectually disabled, and calling someone intellectually disabled should not be something you say to insult people. The only difference is that you're not using a slur to do it.

[โ€“] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

They're not mentally retarded, they're just on the same level intellectually