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Thanks to the commenter who reminded me that it's not bad to be reminded that the term is only a pejorative because conservative racists made it so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#20th_century

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[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yup. but it also takes away their power when they're like "you're woke!" and you're like "oh, you really think so? that's wonderful"

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah if you can pull it off but tbh it's probably not going to go as well as you might picture it in your head.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

no for sure. it's a two prong attack of counterpropaganda. the first is responding immediately by saying MAGA or MAGAt like its a hateful term (easy, it is) but the other prong is within our own circles reminding ourselves that woke folk get shit done and it's a good thing to be

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I feel like there's a pretty big set of center-to-left people for whom the positive notion of wokeness is spoiled by particularly egregious behaviour of, say, "woke Twitter." (for instance, I suspect many are eager to move on from "mansplain." And let's not forget people bullying Lindsay Ellis for comparing Raya and the Last Dragon to Avatar; that was fucked up.)

If we can deftly arrange for "woke" to redirect to that kind of peripheral stuff, and extract the important stuff -- protections for minorities, diversity and inclusion, etc. -- under some new label, then yeah I'm content to leave "woke" in the past.