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[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because LLMs see tokens, not letters or words. It's like showing a human a strawberry and asking them how many atoms it contains.

[โ€“] noxypaws@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sounds like a genuine shortcoming of the technology as it's being ~~presented to~~ forced on the public

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

An LLM also can't bake a cake, decorate a Christmas tree, or bench-press 100kg.

Just understand what LLMs are good at, use them for that, and don't throw your hands up and declare it useless because it can't magically do something it was never designed to do in the first place.

[โ€“] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

but it's being sold as if it IS capable of that.

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've never seen anyone advertising an LLM as being good at spelling bees. The only time I ever see this spelling thing come up is when people are making fun of it.

[โ€“] yuri@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

theyโ€™re presented as general knowledge chatbots at the very least, and i know iโ€™d consider spelling pretty general knowledge.

the way i see it you can either acknowledge the โ€œstrawberry questionโ€ as a genuine failing of most every publicly accessible LLM, or you can acknowledge that LLMs are only ever actually correct by pure chance. sometimes itโ€™s a REALLY GOOD chance, but at the end of the day itโ€™s still always a variable that you canโ€™t actually control.

[โ€“] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You see a false dichotomy.

I see someone pounding away at a ball of yarn with a hammer and complaining that it's not as good a knitting implement as they imagined.

[โ€“] yuri@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

in this thread iโ€™ve only seen complaints about the implementation, no one has even implied LLMโ€™s are useless.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

tbh people call them useless all the time but they also cherry pick their weakness.

it is a tool, it has utility. kinda like crypto although grifters seem to always soil promising tech. but in 20 years it will all settle and we will be enslaved, anyways.

[โ€“] Tweak@feddit.uk 1 points 2 weeks ago

You have someone complaining about what people selling AI say it can do, when it can't do that. You see people complaining that AI can't do things, when it can do other things.

You need to try and digest what people are saying better rather than just being contrarian.

[โ€“] Goten@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

then use open ai o4 pro for 280 โ‚ฌ per month, grok 4 heavy and gemini 2.5 pro or something.

if you want to critisise ai then you must also look at the smartest ai we have, not write about the free little retard models.

[โ€“] yuri@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

or like, not waste inordinate amounts of money for some shit i donโ€™t want/need?