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Whats your such opinion (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 11 months ago by cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 42 points 11 months ago (3 children)

A lot of bad laws have made it onto books by blaming these two groups, for example.

You can't even classify or discuss pedophilia as a sexual disorder and not an intentional decision without sounding like a pedophile.

[–] 520@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the worst thing we do is basically shut down non-harmful outs.

We attack therapists who don't outright vilify non-offending pedos, without considering the fact that said pedos come to them because they don't want to offend, don't want to hurt.

If these people don't have harmless outs, they will instead turn to harmful outs and covering up their crimes.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If these people don’t have harmless outs, they will instead turn to harmful outs and covering up their crimes.

Wasn't it that studies show that in most child abuse cases the abuser is not a pedophile?

[–] 520@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Depends what terminology you use. Officially, pedophile means sexually interested in prepubescent children, with a second term, ephebephile, for those with sexual interest in teenagers, but in general usage, 'pedophile' usually covers all sexual interest in minors.

So using the official definition you're correct, as most cases involve teenagers, but most people will just call them pedophiles anyway.

For clarity's sake, I've been using the term pedo in the general sense (all people attracted to minors).

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

“Conservatives” hate disorder research, because they are most of them.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, it seems like people just lose all reasoning when that's the subject of the argument.