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We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (20 children)

Saying that people are licking boots "accidentally" by calling out and refuting misinformation is not notably better than saying that they're licking boots intentionally. "I should be able to say whatever I want about this country, true or not, and if people push back, they're accidentally licking boots" doesn't become ok because it includes the qualifier "accidentally."

If I've misinterpreted you, you're welcome to explain how or what you meant. Or to drop it in favor of my other points, which you seem to be evading.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (19 children)

"I should be able to say whatever I want about this country, true or not, and if people push back, they're accidentally licking boots"

Who is saying that?? 😅 If you in the process of clarifying something start overreaching in the wrong direction, you're giving them leeway they don't deserve. It's simple, dude. I've seen it happen with people denying and downplaying horrible shit. Just like you want people to not overstate their actions, I don't want people understating them either as I've seen some people do, on purpose (or not), or as I put it, "accidentally [... unless?]" That's the tongue-in-cheek part because, precisely, how do you accidentally do it? There might be intent behind it, we don't know. We are in the middle of an information trying to push people a certain way and these corners of the internet are quite happy with playing for Russia & friends.

That's the whole reason I'm telling you that I agree with you and that we're fucking splitting hairs by coming at it from opposite sides.

Loved the absurd tangent though, but I guess we need laser focus and surgical precision when it's my turn to answer, huh.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (17 children)

This is like an antivaxxer trying to be generous by saying that maybe pro-vaccine people are only "accidentally falling into the trap" of supporting Bill Gates' demon army or whatever.

I've already established that you included the person you responded to as being part of this group of North Korea defenders for simply refuting misinformation. Rather than saying that people like that "accidentally falling into a trap," how about considering the possibility that they're right and have good reason for saying what they do?

Now you're even backpedaling, like "maybe" they're accidentally falling for a trap, maybe they're outright foreign agents, which we can tell because they had the audacity to refute misinformation. I ask again, "what fucking trap?"

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

only “accidentally falling into the trap” of supporting Bill Gates

It's like I say things and they don't even register. I'm so done with you trying to pull shit shit by arguing in bad faith and rehashing what was already said. I've been consistent in my answers and now you're doing some other shit. I can't with you Lemmings sometimes.

If you need clarification, I probably already gave it and you took it some other way. Go have fun with someone else.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry people push back against propaganda on here, must be rough for you 😔

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And you say that because you've clearly read my entire comment history and have reached a sound conclusion based on clear evidence that you can cite, right? Totally not being hypocritical, overreaching, dramatic, rude, and a little bit desperate to make one final jab, huh.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I don't have to go through your comment history, I can just cite the part where you accused the person in this thread of "bootlicking," despite just refuting misinformation. Already did cite that, in fact.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ex dee, dude. And I can cite an entire conversation of you misreading into a comment and running with it like a chicken with its head cut off. Then dropping a quiz inside a word salad, all the while being perfectly obnoxious about it. How's that for citing shit from this thread?

Whatever pretense you had about rigor, it just went out the window.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You could post, "you've been running around like a chicken with its head cut off" while calling the other sides argument a "word salad" in response to literally anything. Instantly win any argument, no matter who said what or what it's about.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But that's literally what you did. Cope.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again, sorry there are people here who disrupt your 5 minutes hate of circulating lies and propaganda about the people we're told to hate. Seethe.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

circulating lies and propaganda about the people we’re told to hate

Oh yeah? Quote me. Specify the targeted people and what I said about them. You got one chance.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I already did. The part where you took offense and accused someone of "bootlicking" for identifying lies and propaganda.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Eh, I knew you were gonna come up with some low-hanging bullshit.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you shouldn't hang your bullshit so low, then.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh shit, you got me. Maybe stop giving importance to such low-hanging bullshit. How about that? Between the one who makes it and the one who consumes it with their mouth wide open, I know who I'd rather be in this scenario.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, I'd say it's very obvious that you prefer to spew bullshit everywhere, thank you for admitting it.

I don't "consume" your bullshit tho, I reject and refute it, despite your attempts to smear it everywhere.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.” ― Jean-Paul Sartre

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