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I think this is a great example of the type of rhetoric that attempts to seem like material analysis but is really just idealist nonsense.

Let's look at it more closely:

How is someone seriously suggesting the world's third largest nuclear power defending Iran is a bad outcome

A good sign of idealist nonsense is saying things that aren't true as if they are true. I didn't suggest that China defending Iran would be a bad outcome, I said people demanding China to do such a thing when Iran itself isn't a consenting party is nonsense.

You are apparently one of these people, so you've decided to attempt to refute my points by initiating your critique with a thing you made up. This is peak idealism, things you made up in your head to justify your emotionally driven perspective, devoid of materialist analysis but full of really aggressive language which does well to fire up other idealist nonsense believers.

A great tactic for twitter or something but not a material analysis. It's all vibes.

when literally the point is Iran getting their own nukes to defend themselves.

the need for nuclear deterrence is existential compared to self defense via conventional military weaponry, something China is indeed supplying Iran with.

China has done a lot to defend Iran, internet strategists might not appreciate it unless they can see a PLA pilot shooting Israeli jets out of Iranian airspace but internet strategists are also typically absolute losers who have no experience in anything they talk about.

The point made is Iran is China's major trading partner not the US. There is nothing to ignore here other than the fact China is the one getting fucked if they lose Iranian oil. You're asking us to justify why China wont act out of material self interest as if its an own. China is the one that constantly boasts about win-win relationships. I guess Iran is winning when they get bombed and China watches... respectfully obviously.

I think this one really shores up my previous statement about pretending one knows what another nation should do, as a random person on the internet who actually doesn't know anything about what they are talking about. China is certainly acting out of its own self interest at all times, if anything this is precisely why they aren't intervening in more obtuse and flagrant ways, which is what most people criticizing them are actually asking them to do. To want China to do more than they are currently doing is to ask them to go against their own national self interest and very likely against the well being of their billion plus citizens. Now you are saying they are going against their self interest by not doing that, a real contradiction isn't it? Does www.hexbear.net user BynarsAreOk know about China's self interest more than China? Time will tell.

When the Palestinians call for a global revolution or global resistance to zionism that does not include Beijing either, clearly because Hamas didn't send a delegation to Beijing asking for a Chinese liberation force? Deeply unserious.

Can you find me some statements from Palestinian resistance organizations against China? Maybe one of these 14 groups that went to Beijing last year to sign the Beijing Declaration:

Palestinian National Liberation Movement (Fatah) Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine Palestinian People's Party Palestinian Popular Struggle Front Palestinian National Initiative Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine – General Command Palestinian Democratic Union Palestinian Liberation Front Arab Liberation Front Palestinian Arab Front Vanguard for the Popular Liberation War - Lightning Forces (As-Sa'iqa)

Are you a representative for one of these orgs? Are you a member, did you express criticism to your organization's leadership for going to Beijing to meet with these other orgs and come to a unified position? Did you say, "Hey Musa Abu Marzouk, what the hell are you doing? Don't you know China is the real enemy here?"