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I'm not surprised, and I'd still say it's not an unlikely grand conspiracy if some rich guy paid a couple guards to kill him.
If that were the case then they wouldn't have the fucking government covering it up. It literally is a conspiracy
Well, I don't see the government covering it up, and I don't believe in conspiracy theories.
"Conspiracy theory is a term that's used whenever anybody ascribes conscious intent to people with power." —Michael Parenti
okay then you're either blind or a moron
Saying "I don't believe X conspiracy theory" is understandable. But saying you don't believe in any "conspiracy theory". Like, you think that the government just always tells the truth and doesn't cover up anything?
I believe in conspiracies as a general concept, like the two guards, and I believe governments have classified programs. When it gets to a certain point where vast numbers of people are involved in covering up something huge perfectly, you run into the problem of everything being possible and nothing being falsifiable, though.
In practice, people don't believe in conspiracy theories because they honestly assess it's the neatest way to explain the world, it's because they get emotional satisfaction out of the community and the feeling that they know something which other people don't. There's psychology literature about it and everything.
What I said is my goto answer when I suspect I'm about to be arguing about melting steel beams or whatever, because that's just a waste of time.
There is an additional psychological mechanism at play here to be aware of, which is that some criminal actions taken by the government (in order to protect ruling class interests) would destroy the legitimacy of their claim to power if admitted to. The importance of controlling the narrative around so-called State Crimes Against Democracy therefore becomes existential.
Marxists are more aware of this dynamic because they understand the nature of power structures. It's also to be the same reason their theories are viciously attacked by the ruling class.
Edit: Did I say something rude?
Okay, I'll be a bit more direct. Go talk to the aliens about it, maybe they have time. I believe the hexbear way of saying that is "disengage".
But they're not covering it up perfectly, as this post shows. They're trying to, make they've made mistakes.
You're literally on a thread about evidence of tampering with the video. There's a section if the video that's missing. If that isn't evidence of them covering something up I don't know what is. Do you not see it because you don't want to or do you actually not think that shows there's something going on?
As I understand the headline, it could just as easily be someone in the prison that tampered with the data. That would be the simplest explanation, then.
After reading the article, it's not even clear it was tampering, as opposed to conversion and compilation of the original file formats. And apparently, if the footage is what it appears to be, he actually did kill himself.