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[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which one killed competition with anti consumer practices in the 2000's?

Epic has even more anti-consumer practices.

Which one popularised micro transactions?

Does Epic ban micro transactions?

Which one popularised loot boxes and gambling?

None of this available on EGS either?

Which one popularised the current "Sell now, fix later" model

"The service that was around first did these things that the service that came later is also doing, that makes the service that came later better for some reason!"

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine being so Stockholmed that you miss the point that bad.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine being so full of yourself that you think saying nothing has any value.

Fun fact: the term "Stockholm syndrome" originates from a hostage situation in which the authorities did not seem to care about the safety of the hostages at all, they regularly put the hostages in danger and the hostage takers were frequently trying to protect the hostages from the actions of the authorities.
In light of that, the hostages having more empathy towards their captors makes perfect sense. However ignorant people who did not understand the details of the event coined the term "Stockholm syndrome" instead of actually listening to the hostages or trying to understand a different point of view.

Your use of the term feels very appropriate.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are literally saying that the Epic store doing the same scummy things as Steam, makes it worse than Steam.

This is why gaming is in the shape it's in.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No, you were literally saying Epic was better than Steam because Epic is doing the same scummy things but just wasn't around when Steam started doing it.

I never made any claims as to whether I felt those practices are problematic or not, I just pointed out that they both do it so it's irrelevant in the comparison.

Epic is worse than Steam because of its aggressively anti-consumer practices like paid exclusives.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, you were literally saying Epic was better than Steam

Point to where I said that.

paid exclusives

The same thing Steam did to secure its monopoly.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Point to where I said that.

Right here: https://lemmy.world/comment/18163814

The same thing Steam did to secure its monopoly.

That's not what the word monopoly means

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was listing all the bad things Steam does and never mentioned Epic. That's on you projecting so much.

Monopolies are defined by having a large enough market share, even if that ain't the dictionary definitions you Steamboys cling so tightly too.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was listing all the bad things Steam does and never mentioned Epic. That's on you projecting so much.

You used the phrase "which one" a lot. That is incoherent nonsense unless you are talking about at least 2 entities. "Which one" was the second entity?

even if that ain't the dictionary definition

So not what that word means.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The "which one" was in reference to the original comment. Which was about Epic.

So not what that word means.

Words can have multiple meanings in different contexts.

Dictionaries generally (because each one is going to have a slightly different definition) define it as having complete control over a market.

Whereas a lot of the monopoly laws and departments define it as having over a certain percentage of the market share, even if it isn't 100%

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago

The β€œwhich one” was in reference to the original comment. Which was about Epic.

So we were talking about epic. Glad we cleared that up.

Dictionaries generally (because each one is going to have a slightly different definition) define it as having complete control over a market.

So it's not a Monopoly then.

Whereas a lot of the monopoly laws and departments define it as having over a certain percentage of the market share, even if it isn’t 100%

And seeing as Valve appears to not be running afoul of these laws, not a Monopoly then.