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Europe will welcome them with open arms.
People starts to realize that having a higher wage in the US doesn't translate into a better quality of life.
i dont believe anywhere is currently safe from fascism.
In the "first world" sphere that regularly ignores and denigrate any country that could be perceived as inferior even if it's not necessarily, then yes, maybe. We're doing great over here in some places that are often overlooked.
Unfortunately I think Trumpism is lowering the bar. Maybe right now it's not fascism everywhere, but there's no doubt that on a decades time the world will be more fascist than it would have been without Trump.
I have confidence in the one step backward, two steps forward doctrine. If our current government is any indication, we're heading in the exact opposite direction of the fash trend for the foreseeable future. There's hope. Please don't lose yours!
Yeah.
I'm in Australia, I suspect you might be also, but for reference a few months ago our centre-left party ground our centre-right party into the dust in a landslide election victory.
I suppose I agree that its not all bad news.
However, I'm gravely concerned about the US trajectory and I'm certain it will have an impact here sooner or later.
Right now our PM is trying to negotiate the current tariffs. The US will want us to increase military spending, and reduce investment in science and research. We might resist, but it's certainly pressure to move in the wrong direction.
no, but it safer than if a authoritarian is control, like trump, Russia, and china. until those other countries in europe starts attacking science(defunding, jailing them, or alternative "science") its better than the US.
only the PI/PHDs, and postodcs, the ones that do "majority of the work" in a research lab, undergrads, and grads wont have the same opportunities in europe.
Quality has nothing to do with the money they gain, but whith what they can buy for it, apart of the quality of the public services. Higher wages in the US mean nothing, when even this isn't enough for education and health, which in the EU isn't a problem. There the people don't lose their existence base because of hospital bills or to pay the studies of their children.
The next step in the authoritarian playbook will be to limit the movement of educated people. Soon enough, those people won't be able to leave even if they wanted to.