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The Trump administration has, for the first time ever, built a searchable national citizenship data system.

The tool, which is being rolled out in phases, is designed to be used by state and local election officials to give them an easier way to ensure only citizens are voting. But it was developed rapidly without a public process, and some of those officials are already worrying about what else it could be used for.

NPR is the first news organization to report the details of the new system.

For decades, voting officials have noted that there was no national citizenship list to compare their state lists to, so to verify citizenship for their voters, they either needed to ask people to provide a birth certificate or a passport — something that could disenfranchise millions — or use a complex patchwork of disparate data sources.

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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"illegitimately" is the key word there. I'm not interested in what you think happens if everything is working as intended, or your poor reading comprehension. F-, rewrite your answer and address the question or you'll fail the class and be held back a grade.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

“illegitimately” is the key word there. I’m not interested in what you think happens if everything is working as intended, or your poor reading comprehension

Oh the irony. Database and procedural logs are automatic and extensive, that's why I mentioned them. No amount of "illegitimate" actions would sidestep them. Go back to school.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Logs, eh? You know those are just text files, right? And how do you plan to get access to them to prove any kind of mistake or malfeasance, exactly?

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well no, they’re not just text files lol.

You’re basically saying that everyone that can have anything to do with the database and systems around it are corrupt and working together. That’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You’re basically saying that everyone that can have anything to do with the database and systems around it are corrupt and working together.

No, just the person in charge has to order it. People do what their bosses tell them. Rules and procedures don't matter if the people in charge ignore them. And again, you're not getting access to any of the data we're talking about in the first place, because the government would have to grant that access, and you're not a person as far as they're concerned in this scenario. What organisations have you worked for that would just give out information to a person they can't verify the identity of?

That’s a ridiculous conspiracy theory.

No, it's happening now in the US. You seem woefully under-informed to be trying to comment on current affairs. Maybe stick to your own country until you're up to speed.

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au -1 points 2 days ago

No, just the person in charge has to order it. People do what their bosses tell them.

No, they don't - not when it's illegal, and especially not when it's something like this. You guys always love to bang on about the whole January 6 thing where Trump supposedly ordered all sorts of things of the ballot counters etc - and they didn't do it, did they? People say no to their bosses all the time.

because the government would have to grant that access, and you’re not a person as far as they’re concerned in this scenario.

So the DOJ/FBI/CIA/etc never investigate anything internal? I'm not talking about me specifically lol.

No, it’s happening now in the US. You seem woefully under-informed to be trying to comment on current affairs. Maybe stick to your own country until you’re up to speed.

Wait so this National Citizenship Database already exists and is already being corrupted with legitimate citizens being deleted from it because they're not registered Republicans?! Where can I read more about this? How was it exposed? You just finished telling me that there would be no way to know, didn't you? So how do you know?