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Fuck proselytizing religions. No, I won't join your stupid fucking cult. Fuck right off.
Do you want to talk about Satan?
We enjoy sex, responsible drug use and rock and roll.
Anybody who rebels against the biblical god has the right idea.
Are the uh... maggoty cum farts optional or?
They'll grow on you.
That is part of the concern, yes.
All hail Satan!
I'm listening...
Fuck all religion. No I don’t want to reject reality to play make believe.
Naw, my religion is cool. I'm a Satanist. We accept reality as revealed by science.
Hail Satan!
Jokes aside, it's good to see more Satanists out in the wild. TST has been doing great shit, and I'm all here for it.
Science disagrees with consensus reality.
So you genuinely believe Satan exists and has influence in the world? Where does he live under the Earths mantle?
Because that is entirely at odds with everything we know about reality.
Many, if not most, modern satanists are atheistic satanists. Satan is merely a convenient bit of Judeo-Christian mythology/imagery used to irritate Christians.
While I hesitate to recommend The Satanic Temple due to the actions of one of the founders, their "7 Fundamental Tenets" are a pretty great basis for an atheistic worldview.
Edit: normally, I'd link some resources, but it's late, I'm on mobile, and search engines exist, so... Sorry, not sorry.
You might want to look up what The Satanic Temple actually believes.
His response answered your question. Science doesn't believe in Satan, thus he himself doesn't believe Satan exists. For the record, most Satanists don't actually believe in anything "supernatural". Read more about Satanism here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanism#Contemporary_tendencies_and_groups
So he’s not religious and doesn’t actually believe in Satan?
It’s like atheism with extra useless steps.
Sort of.
The satanic Temple chose their name because of the literal meaning of the word "Satan", which may be the name of the big bad from religious types but actually means "adversary" when directly translated from Hebrew.
Atheists can take all forms, and by no means do I assume what any individual believes, but by the very definition, atheists can be extremely passive in their belief, or more accurately, non-belief. The atheists I know are usually very live and let live, after a while because they realize that arguing the point with religious folks usually doesn't get you anywhere.
TST is dedicated to the fair use and representation of religions in society. They're obviously based in the USA where there is a separation of church and state, at least, there's supposed to be. So the state cannot show favoritism to any religion, but they often do. Usually with monuments like a depiction of the ten commandments placed on city owned land. This is a real and fairly recent issue that TST got involved on. They asked that a statue of Baphomet be placed on the same city owned land, forcing the city into a position of either allowing the statue to be placed along side the very Christian ten commandments, or admit that they are favoring Christianity, which they basically cannot do because it's a violation of their station.
Satanists are a bit more active, by default, than atheists. Not to say atheists are inactive or lazy, it's just that Satanists have a very specific target.
Look it's cool that you're in a philosophical moral club, but don't go around defending religion by calling yourself a religion and saying 'look at me as an example of a good religion' when you don't actually hold religious/supranatural beliefs.
And if you do hold such beliefs, don't claim you accept reality.
Look, I actually kind of agree. And this is why I will never call myself a Satanist.
However, I think it's foolish to ignore the work that the TST does in fighting for the separation of religion and government.
You know, you can just say "supernaturalism" instead of "religion". The two are not synonymous. You can have religion without supernaturalism, such as non-theistic Satanism and some forms of Buddhism. You can have supernaturalism without religion, which describes many New-Agers. I'm sure you've heard people say "I'm spiritual, but not religious", and that's what they mean by that. There are people who believe in souls and reincarnation and stuff like that, but they don't have a religion built around it.
In the case of non-theistic Satanism, there is a moral code, a set of beliefs, and a community of people with shared values, as well as holidays and rituals. Just nothing supernatural.
You cannot, but please do show this supposedly zero make-believe form of Buddhism.
Exactly, it's a club not a religion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_Buddhism
Lol, '50s seppo hippie shit? I was expecting something a bit more real and legitimate.
I'd say that's equally as much a club and not a religion as satanism is if that's the case.
That's a controversial take.
As far as I'm concerned, TST is only a "religion" on the books as a basic requirement for them to insert themselves into all of the places that religion, specifically Christianity, is inserted into by government, so they can demonstrate the hypocrisy of the "leadership" that was elected.
Also, having a belief that there isn't anything in the great beyond, is still a belief. You can have a belief without denying reality/Science. None of these things are mutually exclusive. I'm saddened that you don't seem to believe that.
At the end of the day, I see anyone identifying as a satanist under TST to be doing advocacy work on behalf of nonbelievers, since most governments would rather deny all religious symbols/rituals/information from government than allow "Satanists" a platform. Their actions unilaterally has eliminated, mitigated, or otherwise diminished the involvement of any one particular sky daddy from government. It's a worthwhile thing to be done.
You're entitled to an opinion, even if everyone else disagrees, so think whatever you want. I don't agree that you can't be agnostic/atheist and be a part of a "religion". You absolutely can.
Even the lack of a belief is, in and of itself, a belief.
Trolling the politicians who try to violate the separation of church and state isn't useless.
Being a Satanist while identifying as an atheist is often associated with a specific philosophical stance rather than a belief in a literal Satan or supernatural entities. In this context, Satanism can be seen as a symbolic representation of individualism, self-empowerment, and rebellion against traditional religious norms. Here are some key points to consider:
In summary, being a Satanist while being an atheist often reflects a philosophical and ethical stance rather than a theological one, emphasizing personal empowerment and a rejection of traditional religious dogma.
TL;DR Atheism simply means you don't believe in a god. It makes no other claims. Satanism encompasses more than that simple perspective.
It's pretty commendable that you're trying to educate that person. I wouldn't have even bothered since it's clear that they're asking questions in bad faith.
Paraphrasing it:
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I can't recall who said this, but they noted that the purpose of engaging in debate is not necessarily to persuade or educate the opponent, but rather to provide insights for the audience, who may have similar questions and can benefit from the discussion.
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I can hear your avatar.
It's part of capitalism as well.
Fuck that too!
We dont need to improve the world, we just need to get you to say you to validate our taste in shitty fiction. That's more important.
Wait, wait, wait.
Talk all the shit you want about how people twist the meanings of the book/religion, there are some very good stories in the Bible.
They're not that good, though. Some of them sorta stand up as mediocre. Compare them to an anthology by, like, le'guinn, known more as a novelist who could maintain consistent characters plot themes and tone for the length of a fucking novel. You know who fucking wins.
Yeah that whole Lot plotline is pretty crazy.