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It may be several years yet before home prices fall back into an affordable range for the average Canadian, according to Oxford Economics.

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[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

man that sounds like a win win, fuck investors

[–] villasv@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

When you say "fuck investors" do you also mean everyone who has any savings or pension? Because these people are investors.

Like, fuck me for opening a HISA and contributing to my RRSP?

[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Nah I know the system that regular workers have to use for retirement, because the system's warped to only work that way. And then they get shitty, or no retirement because of how it works, they're competing in a contest that rewards the wealthiest, and the prize is more money. It should be truly savings, from an income not obliterated by the wealth inequality we have from an investment economy, or better supported by taxes from the new generation of workers, that right now have been steadily becoming less and less able to support retirees, again from wealth inequality because investment is a broken feedback loop that concentrates money away from the bottom.

Lots of people have to make use of systems they dont agree with.

[–] NathanielThomas@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry, you misunderstand slightly.

I don't mean investors in the sense of speculative parasitic humans who are devaluing life by overvaluing housing.

I mean, people like me who have worked from the age of 15-49 and now own a very modest sized apartment that is grotesquely overpriced and has quite literally enslaved me to mortgage payments for years to come.

If we devalue my apartment, why did I spend decades of sweat and toil to purchase it? Then it feels like I was playing the stock market.

And this isn't the same argument as the "why should people get free school when I had to pay student loans" since one doesn't affect the other. In this situation, if the value of homes come down too significantly, it's literally devaluing my work.

I didn't create the horrible dystopian system we live in but I do unfortunately have to abide by its rules. And now that I have a tiny piece (on paper but owned by the bank) I am hoping (like most Canadians) to take that piece and cash out to retire on in 10-15 years time.

What I'd really like to see is some kind of national housing strategy that guaranteed people basic housing regardless of their income (even if it's "zero"). That housing wouldn't impact the market but it could slow down the unhealthy growth of the valuation of housing.

If we could totally slow housing valuation growth to the normal 2% inflation, while also creating affordable housing for lower income/no income earners, then the system could adjust and that could be a true win win.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

If we devalue my apartment, why did I spend decades of sweat and toil to purchase it?

a place to live?