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Professors from across the country have long been lured to Florida's public colleges and universities, with the educators attracted to the research opportunities, student bodies, and the warm weather.

But for a swath of liberal-leaning professors, many of them holding highly coveted tenured positions, they've felt increasingly out of place in the Sunshine State. And some of them are pointing to the conservative administration of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis as the reason for their departures, according to The New York Times.

DeSantis, who was elected to the governorship in 2018 and was easily reelected last fall, has over the course of his tenure worked to put a conservative imprint on a state where moderation was once a driving force in state politics. In recent years, DeSantis has railed against the current process by which tenure is awarded, and with a largely compliant GOP-controlled legislature, he's imposed conservative education reforms across the state.

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I get why they're doing it,
But what exactly do they think is going to happen when those highly coveted positions get filled by people complacent or supportive of DeSantis' agenda?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The university system in Florida will get worse? Why should professors feel obligated to try to save Florida's higher ed system?

[–] HWK_290@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, to the professors themselves? Nothing. To the university system? Arguably, what the people of Florida want and deserve

It's nice to say one would stay on principle and try and change things /fight back, but in reality, it's a huge emotional and professional drain, especially on families. I've personally drawn a line at applying for positions in Florida

That said, I've got a number of friends who work as professors in Florida and they haven't given any indication this affects them, or they're even remotely interested in leaving. Professors have high mobility and move often, especially if they have a competing (better) offer. The turnover rate only increased by 2% in the last year, according to the article...

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Arguably, what the people of Florida want and deserve

Try considering the polling places per capita of blue versus red counties and several other kinds of voter suppression before you go victim blaming millions of people.

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it’s a huge emotional and professional drain, especially on families.

Fighting fascism is not going to be easy, convenient, safe, or anything like that, but it's still worth it.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fighting fascism is not going to be easy, convenient, safe, or anything like that, but it’s still worth it.

Then the fascists should start fighting it, no? Why are you not pointing your multiple comments at them?

Why is it up to the rest of us to clean up their messes when they can so easily just stay in place, destroy everything they don't like, and create the POC-free, LGBTQIA-free, non-Christian-free, democracy-free "Gilead" utopia they long for?

We already have historical evidence to tell us exactly how this is going to end. I don't want to be there when it does -- and it inevitably will. Badly.

[–] Mossmouse@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Do you think they should stay in a hostile work environment dealing with reform policies they disagree with but have no power to change? If you get why they are leaving, what else is there for them to do? It's not a protest, it's people choosing to leave jobs they are no longer happy doing under the circumstances forced upon them.

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Doing something for the greater good is admirable. But you can't expect everyone to do it and even those who do can't always spend a lifetime doing it. I'm sure these professors have considered the exact scenario you brought up, but at the same time they have to enjoy their life and raise families in a place that isn't hostile to them.

[–] RubberStuntBaby@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

What's going to happen? They will get exactly what they want, which is students being taught what they want them to believe. It's an academic coup.