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I see videos in Tiktok of Tel Aviv and Haifa going boom boom that say otherwise.
The fact that any of them are still alive is only because Israel was constrained from using its nuclear weapons.
Bibi got exactly what he wanted. He killed Israel's top 10nuclear scientists in the first 10 minutes of the attack. There has been no huge international outcry as a result of the attack so he now knows that he can do it again without consequences. He dragged fascist boot licker Donald Trump into the conflict so now he knows that the US will run to his aid whenever he needs it.
Trump got exactly what he wanted. He was horribly embarrassed by the fact that everyone was laughing at his dollar store dictator parade and got to flex his strongman muscles. Never mind the fact that the attack was a near total failure, his fascist bootlicking base believe that his approval rating is at 99.9% and that he completely wiped out Iran's nuclear capabilities.
Other than that, though, Iran definitely won.
Bibi (and the west) wanted regime change
that did not happen. The bulk of Iranians rallied around the current govt. He wanted to eradicate Iran's ability to enrich
that did not happen.
There is huge international outcry, just not in the west. One could argue that the consequences of this outcry isnt substantially retaliatory, but there is no doubt major outcry from the global majority and has only strengthened defense agreements among the major powers supporting Iran.
It was already known that the US would aid in Israel's defense, especially considering that this attack was jointly coordinated. So while the US intervened, it was only intended to deescalate, evident by the potempkin attack on Iran's nuclear sites. Bibi's ultimate goal is to have the US involved in a long-term, official military capacity, which it did not achieve.
Trump got the opposite of what he wanted. He completely alienated his base by forsaking his promise to not get militarily involved in West Asian affairs and drag the US into more war. A significant number of his supporters view him as weak in this regard, not a so-called strongman. And what does he have to materially show for his efforts
nada.
This is a victory for Iran because the mystique of Israel has been completely broken by Iranian missiles. Everyone in the region thought Israel was unassailable -- supported by the US with the weapons and forces of the US -- they assumed it was invulnerable. And now it's quite clearly vulnerable and was so at the point of breaking apart, because there are a lot of pressures inside of Israel right now. The myth of Israeli technical, material superiority and exceptionalism has been punctured. This is major.
What impact this will have within the region however, we will see.
So Israel killed 9 of the top 10 nuclear scientists in Iran in the first series of strikes then cleaned up the 10th shortly after and you don't think they could have taken out a large number of the members of the Iranian regime? Cool. Cool, cool, cool.
Clearly you're here to argue conjectures rather than have informed discussion. Have a nice day
We were having a civil discussion. I don't agree with you so you label me a troll but that doesn't make it so.
Does that change the fact that Tel Aviv and Haifa got hammered?
Israel could not stop Iran from hitting Israeli cities. Israel's air defence was shown to be ineffective.
The title was, "Iran says powerful military response forced Israel to halt aggression unilaterally". That isn't what happened. It's delusional.
I would venture to guess that the unilateral phrasing is referring to the fact that Iran's response did force Israel to turn to the US to intervene and broker a pause in hostility... thus halting Israel's aggression.
They did this without the offered aid from Russia or China. Unlike Israel who started the aggression and required the US to step in on its behalf
Hasn't Iran been funding attacks by proxies on Israel for years? Weren't they supposed to be part of a coordinated attack against Israel but Hamas jumped the gun?
You're here to troll. Have a nice day.
Reality is trolling? Interesting.
You're calling me a troll because your normal tankie nonsense isn't working and you don't have anything else to try.
If you actually want to have a conversation based on reality, I'm here.
No, just that your statements are so full of fallacies that it's not worth conversing with you.
Lol at tankie
My statements are demonstrably true. You just don't like the truth.
And based on this response you don't even know what fallacies are lol. Again have a nice day.