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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

Religion isn't the cause, the mode of production is. Economic factors are far more important when it comes to war, including this one.

[–] Luccajan@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If there is no religion people will find something else to fight over.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

In reality nobody is actually fighting for "religion". They're actually fighting for nationalism, capitalism, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Maybe, but religion had caused infinite more wars than all other reasons together in the whole history.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

No, economic factors matter far more. Religion is often used as an excuse, or plays some role, but the real drive is access to trade or resources or labor in the vast majority of cases.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, and it's almost entirely due to one religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah Donald Trump is a devout Christian that must be the problem.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know any social advanced, free and human rights respecting Theocracy? The problem with Trump is, apart of the religion, that he is an ignorant and stupid nazi asshole.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

The reason I know this is fake is because the book isn't upside down

[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

First of all, no. Secondly, no.

[–] Nama@hexbear.net 3 points 2 weeks ago

I wish this was news powercry-1

[–] zippo@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

greed first. its religion AND capital. cherry-picked fairy tales used to oppress and control, making the privileged more powerful and less empathetic, brainwashing the ignorant and leading to so much pointless hate-- religion is a sword and greed is the hand holding it. maybe im wrong but religion wouldnt exist if people didnt want more and more and more. more power, more superiority, more land (bc saying the land is holy and promised to you means its ok to take it by force), even the audacity to believe death isnt the end, they can have more life and shit? you cant own death. mankind evolved with so much creativity and abstract capabilities and this is where we are, dumb as hell.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Gotta erase all those disgusting borders.

Likewise gotta end the most violent and brainwashed religion of them all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion