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[โ€“] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 2 days ago (5 children)

NGL, the recent safety record of Boeing jets doesn't instill confidence. I am always relieved when I see my flight is on an Airbus.

[โ€“] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

recent

Several years already... and eventually, it trickles down even into the hardest boneheads

[โ€“] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Several years is 'recent' in aviation, compared to the high-profile early FBW crashes Airbus had and AF447.

[โ€“] albert180@piefed.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AF447 was pilot error and not cheapening out knowingly on the construction to save money.

The whole Boeing 737 is completely outdated and wouldn't get approved today. Like they would have needed a new pilot warning system for years, but are just rolling by with exemptions after exemption

AF447 is sometimes blamed on lack of coupled sidesticks amongst other possible deficiencies in aircraft design. Pilot error doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Certainly not the same situation as the 737, though.

[โ€“] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They did before they took under McDonald Douglas. Ever since McD-D bought Boeing with Boeing's money it's been downhill.

[โ€“] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Exactly - when McDonnell Douglas "reverse-merged" with Boeing in 97, the corporate culture shifted from engineering-first to finance-first, and we're seeing the consquences of that prioritization now with all these safety issues.

"Hey, you know those executives that decided to do the whole DC-10 cargo door that almost killed one airplane full of passengers and then DID kill another one? Let's put those sister groping fuck knuckles in charge."

That boeing is still allowed to exist at this point is a capitalistic travesty.

[โ€“] nevm@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago

As someone said on another thread, โ€œIf itโ€™s on a Boeing, Iโ€™m not goingโ€

[โ€“] xploit@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or the odd Embraer - I know fuck all about them but at least it's not boeing

[โ€“] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They almost became Boeing. Boeing basically asked congress to tariff the Bombardier C series so hard that nobody would import it. Congress responded by introducing a tariff even higher than what Boeing asked for. Airbus had a manufacturing plant in the US and made a deal with Bombardier to build the C series there to avoid the tariff. That's how the A220 came into existence. Initially it was selling so well that Boeing looked into buying Embraer to have competition in the regional jet market.

[โ€“] kcuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The a220 is really nice to ride in (though weird size with air Canada running them in a 2-3 layout). The engines are apparently a nightmare, but last I heard we're now seeing similar issues with pw's non-geared engines too, so everything is fucked.

It's a nice plane, but it's likely at a dead end. It was designed to be stretched and reach into the territory of the A320 and Boeing 737. Airbus doesn't really have an incentive to stretch it for a couple reasons. It would cut into their A320 sales which is selling like crazy right now. It also has a different cockpit layout to other Airbus aircraft so it's harder to cross train pilots from an A220 to other Airbus aircraft. Bombardier built a good plane, but the US Congress screwed them to protect Boeing.

They are Brazilian actually.