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Image is of destruction and damage inside Israel, sourced from this article.


Iran and Israel have struck each other many times over the last few days. There has been a general focus on military facilities and headquarters by both sides, though Israel has also struck oil facilities, civilian structures and hospitals, and in return for this, Iran has struck major scientific centers and the Haifa oil facilities.

Israel appears to have three main aims. First, to collapse the Iranian state, either through shock and breakdown by killing enough senior officials, or via some sort of internal military coup. Second, to try and destroy Iranian nuclear sites and underground missile cities, or at least to paralyze them long enough to achieve the first and third goals. And third, to bring the US into a direct conflict with Iran. This is because the US better equipped to fight them than Israel is (though victory would still not be guaranteed depending on what Iran chooses to do).

Iranian nuclear facilities are hidden deep underground (800 meters), far beyond the depth range of even the most powerful bunker busters (~70 meters or so), and built such that the visible ground entrances are horizontally far away in an unknown direction from the actual underground chambers. Only an extremely competent full-scale American bombing force all simultaneously using multiple of the most powerful conventional (perhaps even nuclear) bunker busters could even hypothetically hope to breach them (and we have seen how, in practice, American bunker busters have largely failed to impair or deter Ansarallah). There are several analysts on both sides who have concluded that it is entirely impossible to physically prevent Iran from building nukes.

I fully expect the US to join the war. I believe the current ambiguity is a deliberate invention of the US while they work to move their military assets into position, and as soon as they are ready, the US will start bombing Iran. After that, Iran's leadership must - if they haven't already - harden their hearts, and strike back with no fear, or risk following the path of Libya, Syria, and Iraq, either into either surrender, occupation, or annihilation. Every day where they do not possess a nuke is a day where lives are being lost and cities are being bombed.


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[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 39 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

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The Kurdistan Freedom Life Party (PJAK) has issued a written statement regarding the Israel-Iran War. (Sorani)

15-06-2025: The Iranian peoples are not forced to choose between war and dictatorship lenin-dont-laugh

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Since yesterday, June 13, 2025, Israel has launched its heavy attacks on the nuclear, military, and command centers of the Islamic Republic of Iran, especially centers and figures affiliated with the Revolutionary Guard Corps. The Islamic Republic's counterattacks on Israel are not at a level that can serve as a deterrent against Israel's deadly blows.

This war is the final straw for the global power system with Iranian sovereignty and will continue until the complete formation and de-escalation of this entire system. Undoubtedly, this is not a short-term process and is an essential part of implementing the New Middle East project. The result of the policies of execution, repression, discrimination, corruption, and poverty has been the despair and hatred of Iranian societies and people for the existing system, leading them to a completely radical and rejectionist opposition to this system. The Iranian people's expression of joy at the weakening of such sovereignty does not mean that Iranian societies have pinned all their hopes on the results of such a war.

This war is a war of power and conflict of interests between powers, not a war of liberation of societies and nations. This war has come to the fore as a result of the war-mongering and expansionist policies of the Islamic Republic, without the slightest consideration for the suffering of the Iranian people. The cost of the war-mongering of the rulers of the Islamic Republic is paid by the people involved in social and economic crises. The large number of civilian victims, especially women and children, in both Iran and Israel during these attacks shows the fact that people's lives are not important in the view of the governments.

The peoples and societies of Iran are not forced to choose between the two options of war and accepting dictatorial rule. The Free Life Party of Kurdistan, while opposing the imposition of war on Iranian societies, emphasizes the principle of democratic struggle of these societies. What will place freedom on the future horizon of the Iranian people is their democratic struggle and the unique revolution of Women, Life, Freedom. Undoubtedly, in order to achieve the democratic revolution of our people, the convergence and cooperation of all freedom-seekers and democratic forces, fighters of nations, women, and identities is necessary and vital. We consider the cooperation of Kurdish parties and the transition from the concept of party rule to the popular management of Kurdistan a historic task at this sensitive and fateful stage. We call for the cooperation of all forces, parties, and civil organizations, with the leadership of Iranian women, to begin a new stage of the revolution of genes, life, and freedom, and in this regard, we declare our readiness for such a beginning.

We consider the transition to the Democratic Republic of Iran as a result of a change in views and the transition from power-seeking, nationalism, patriarchy, and centralism possible and the only option for a stable and democratic future for the country of Iran. We also declare that we consider it our duty to defend our people and other peoples of Iran against any oppression and threat of killing, and we will defend our rights and existence within the framework of legitimate defense. We call on all the people of Iran, especially the people of Kurdistan, to reduce the destructive effects of the war on each other in the form of democratically organized popular organizations and in complete solidarity.

The formation of groups to support war victims, local committees to rescue the injured, financial cooperation committees, as well as the establishment of local administrations and keeping government mercenaries away from influencing the people can be important steps towards building a self-governing and democratic society. In this regard, we call on all patriots, freedom-loving people and members of our party to cooperate.

[–] fever@hexbear.net 33 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They are one of the top proxies of Israel in its assassinations and war against Iran since the Islamic Revolution. They are a separatist group. The reason they don't call for overthrowing the govt is because it is an extremely unpopular position right now since the war started and they don't want to end up with MEK in the eyes of Iranian public. They cooperated with Saddam and beheaded many Iranian soldiers during and after the Iran-Iraq war. They have made promise to Iraqi govt that they would stop their military compaign against Iran because when they attempted to capture Kurdish cities from within during Mahsa protests Iran started rocking their bases, training centers and hideouts in the Iraqi Kurdistan along with drone striking the Mossad officers who were training and leading them.

[–] Chertstone@hexbear.net 23 points 15 hours ago

They along with the baloch separatists (made out of 5 people) are the biggest western dogs inside iran. Thankfully the whole pan-turkic Azerbaijani thing never really took off. Especially since modern Azerbaijan bascially just took the name of OG azerbaijan.

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