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[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

post hoc ergo propter hoc. the invention of Facebook was just as much a cause of leaving Iraq. or flat screen TVs. or Blu-ray disks.

which is to say the protests didn't change anything.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Politicians making decisions based on public opinion has a lot of cause and effect relation. By all accounts it would have been easier to maintain a 40k to 100k presence in Iraq than it was to pack everything up and leave.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

please prove a casual link between protests and the ending of the war

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
  1. People opposed the pointless war whose only winners were Exxo n Mobil.

  2. People voted the party who started the war out of power.

  3. The opposition party withdrew from the region.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

doesn't sound like the protest had any impact. sounds like the votes were the only thing that mattered.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

By that logic no protest has ever had any impact. You sound like a real bootlicker rn.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

nonviolence protects the state

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

So does being anti-protest, bootlicker.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not anti protest. I'm challenging the assertion that the Iraq war protests worked.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

You have challenged the assertion that protests in any way affect the outcome of elections or what choices politicians make.

[–] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago

anyone can read what I wrote and see this is a lie