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[–] RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Seriously. I’ve had discussions with people since the election about how they say it was stolen. Until there’s hard receipts, then it’s not even worth the time considering it to me.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

How do you propose getting those "receipts"?

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

We don't, that's not our job. You don't just believe everything because it's hard to prove the opposite.

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I mean that's the issue, that's also why this case that's going on is so huge. There's so many statistical anomalies that it's nearly impossible that he won every battleground state.....but there's been no smoking gun. There's never been solid enough evidence to warrant a court case. Hopefully we get the 'hard receipts' your looking for in this court case

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Also can we talk about how data even comes to be? Who tf is paying for all these “hard receipts”? Who’s doing the work, who’s analyzing it, who has the access to everything needed to even do the work? The information is obviously being obfuscated and destroyed, like people asking for “hard receipts” think US fascism actually keeps their receipts when no fascist government has ever allowed contradictory information to spread or even exist? People seem to both love data and refuse to accept it’s so easily hidden, destroyed and changed in such an opaque environment. The only time “hard receipts” ever exist is in a completely transparent and forthcoming environment. Honestly most of what we all believe has no “hard receipts” they’re just accepted because it looks and feels right and we have some “soft receipts” to prove to others our feelings are more feelings than theirs

Control over media is a tenant of fascism

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

And even then, I'm not sure what it would accomplish. You're not going to undo Trump's inauguration. At best, it could protect the integrity of the next election, but now there are other options available to undermine it.

Meanwhile, elections since then have swung hard against Trump supporters, including one in Wisconsin where Elon dumped a small fortune and made a personal appearance. If they're so good at rigging machines, why aren't they continuing to use this ability?

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago

I'm skeptical of this claim of election fuckery but, if it was true, you'd want to limit the use as to not get caught.