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Not some 300th degree of abstraction where you have to trace constellations to land on some vague anti-semitic idea.

I’ve had several instances in the past few weeks in which I’ve spoken to otherwise politically oblivious people and heard actual condemnation of the genocide. Followed up with the conflation of Israel with Jews, ascribing all the awful shit the piece of shit country to Jews in general.

Who could have possibly seen this coming?

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sadly, this is in some way our failure. We haven't been loud enough to explain to the people that the American imperialist project and their outpost in the Middle East has nothing to do with Jews and everything to do with capitalism.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sadly, this is in some way our failure.

Nah, fuck that, I’m not here to massage egos and mitigate every consequence of the fight against genocide and pure evil.

This is the fault of Chuds/libs, including lib Jews for hemming and hawing about a genocide or outright supporting it

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Here here, I'm tired of hearing that the rise of fascism or Zionism has anything to do with the messaging from the left. A child can understand it, Jews and Israel are separate things, I knew it as a kid, the left is as clear as can be on this matter. Zionists and fascists have purposely conflated the two since the start of the Zionist project, and called any criticism of Israel antisemitism, while also propping up literal antisemites through support of militant right wing groups in the US and elsewhere.

The propaganda arm of the US and Zionists is much more widespread than any leftist voice, how can we be blamed when the masses fall for their traps?

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago

This is the fault of Chuds/libs, including lib Jews for hemming and hawing about a genocide or outright supporting it

As well as, obviously, being the fault of Israelis who keep spray painting the Star of David on rubble and branding it on people’s foreheads

[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah blaming this on socialists is bullshit ngl ,I mean we as 3rd worlders give you flack for a lot of shit deservedly

But this is absolutely not one of them bro

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean it in the sense that if we had more power and we could actually deliver the message then we wouldn't see this issue. Like, it's a problem we have the power to fix, and the fact that it persists means we aren't doing our job (even if the thing stopping us from doing our job is outside of our control)

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I understand what you’re saying despite my reply below. This will eventually become just another responsibility for us, something that’ll fall on our lap to fix, per usual

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

A lot of reeducation to be done, and not yet a lot of camps. dudes-rock where are they when we need them most?