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[–] darkcalling@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's been winning for years and yet it's been going on for years.

There are secondary goals we must recall of weakening Russia, of deterring it from wanting to fight the west in future, of profits for arms makers, and of drawing the EU further under the US's domination. At this point I really have no idea how much longer this is going to go on. The west can trickle enough weapons in there to keep them fighting Russia for years at this pace. Sure Russia can probably secure the provinces that voted to join it, maybe even by the end of this year but they won't have peace, the Ukrainians will continue launching terrorist drone raids deep into Russia. They'll continue assassinations using bombs on cars and bikes deep in Russia. For Russia to win and have peace they have two options: 1) The Ukrainians come to their senses and agree to Russia's terms for peace which seems increasingly unlikely given how deranged Zelensky and his Nazi cohort are and the unwillingness of the EU to give up the fight 2) fight all the way to Kiev and beyond, to the country's middle and east until their army and ability to field one and operate as a government is undone (they will continue to operate as a government in exile I'm sure but a government in exile can't effectively mobilize and maintain an army back home) and until Russia can install a government of its liking.

What's particularly problematic is some recent surveys showing the percentage of Ukrainians who want to keep fighting is pretty high and hasn't been dropping a lot lately. They also haven't yet started conscripting women which would be something the soy-facing NATOids would love for propaganda purposes in the same way its used to gloss the IOF.

Option 2 is what the west seems to be counting on forcing Russia into with the hopes they'll get tired of it after a few more years and agree to some sort of compromise with better terms than they're offering now and they can declare it a victory because they never stopped fighting. Certainly if Russia is forced into this the fighting could could on for many more years, the rest of this decade seems quite possible and there is a chance the EU hopes to keep the war burning until they're "ready" for this war with Russia they've declared an intent to wage in the near future as soon as they're able.

Option 2 also counts on opening some amount of arms production in Ukraine which is already underway so they can self-supply. They're already producing their own drones. Frankly I don't see a knock-down moment coming. Russia isn't interested in the kind of mass mobilization required to deliver that so it's just going to be slow attrition. It's a shame there are no proxy forces Russia can sponsor to conduct terrorist attacks deep into the EU to give them a taste of their own medicine and push them to stop helping Ukraine in exchange for a similar stand-down. Funny how all the terrorist groups are western proxies like ISIS.

Basically Russia has a tough road ahead of it. More terrorist attacks, many spectacular in nature will eventually get through. More assassinations are likely as well. But they don't have a choice, the best option is sticking with the path they have though it's not going to result in a quick defeat for the west like we'd all hoped.