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Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’

Mike Huckabee, the US ambassador to Israel, has said that the US is no longer pursuing the goal of an independent Palestinian state, marking what analysts describe as the most explicit abandonment yet of a cornerstone of US Middle East diplomacy.

Asked during an interview with Bloomberg News if a Palestinian state remains a goal of US policy, he replied: “I don’t think so.”

The former Arkansas governor chosen by Donald Trump as his envoy to Israel went further by suggesting that any future Palestinian entity could be carved out of “a Muslim country” rather than requiring Israel to cede territory.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Absolutely false. Israel has been stockpiling weapons since the 40s and, depending on who you ask, is between the 8th and 10th largest weapons dealer in the world.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/267131/market-share-of-the-leadings-exporters-of-conventional-weapons/

https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/03/13/us-top-weapons-exports-china-russia/

They do not need our help buying sniper bullets to kill kids.

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/t%C3%AAte-%C3%A0-t%C3%AAte/20241029-us-doctor-claims-israeli-snipers-target-child-in-gaza-no-child-gets-shot-twice-by-mistakea

They're willing and able to misuse the weapons we send them, they don't NEED to use the weapons we send them.

Proof: They started killing Palestinians on 10/7/2023 before we approved a single dime of aid much less sent any.

https://www.ajc.org/news/what-every-american-should-know-about-us-aid-to-israel

Emergency Aid and Wartime Procurement:

In September 2024, the U.S. secured an $8.7 billion aid package for Israel, including $3.5 billion for wartime procurement and $5.2 billion for air defense systems like Iron Dome and David's Sling.

In April 2024, Congress approved $14.3 billion in emergency military assistance and $9.2 billion for humanitarian aid, including support for Gazan civilians.

Paused Heavy Munitions Transfer: In May 2024, the Biden administration paused certain heavy munitions shipments pending Israel’s plans for operations in Rafah, where humanitarian concerns for displaced Palestinians were raised. This move reflected efforts to balance support for Israel with attention to humanitarian laws. The munitions transfer were later approved.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why do they recieves billions if they do not need it. Israel economy would have crumbled if they didn't recieve as much aid

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because politicians need campaign contributions and unless they support Israel, that money not only dries up, but actively gets used against them.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/20/pro-israel-groups-gaza-us-elections

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You basically admit that israel need american politicians to send thrm money and protect them diplomatically for any consequences. It's a win win for israel and the politicians.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago

Oh, no, they don't NEED the money, they WANT the money. :) Big difference.

Same as you or I would if we had our own lobbying firm.

I should say too... this is not unique to Israel. The American Military Industrial Complex is based on "Please give us lucrative contracts you don't need so we can spend money in red state communities that vote for you."

This is how we get billion dollar contracts for things we don't need, but can't be killed because of donations to the politicians.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/01/28/pentagon-tells-congress-to-stop-buying-equipment-it-doesnt-need.html

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2025/04/army-made-tank-it-doesnt-need-and-cant-use-now-its-figuring-out-what-do-it/404877/

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/04/27/would-you-pay-1-7-trillion-for-a-plane-that-couldnt-fly/

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Okay cool so you are saying Biden sent weapons to Israel despite Israel not needing them.

It is funny how Israel disagrees with you.

Israeli Air Force Official: Without U.S. Aid, Israel Couldn't Fight Gaza Beyond a Few Months

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Biden sent weapons to Israel to defend against potential attacks from Iran, as is their right.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-us-prepared-israel-defend-iranian-attack/story?id=114393069

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3rljzepw5yo

Israel then misappropriated the weapons for use in Gaza.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So you are conceding that the genocide would have been impossible if Biden did not supply Israel with weapons and admitting I am right.

Furthermore, can you cite where in your articles it says the bombs which Biden sent were meant to bomb Iran? And where did Biden put the condition that they were not allowed to be used for the genocide but only in case of escaltion with Iran?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Nope. Israel started the genocide before we sent them a dime of aid and will continue until every Palestinian is dead regardless of how little support we send them.

Like I say, sniper bullets are dirt cheap, they don't need our help killing kids.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/02/gaza-palestinian-children-killed-idf-israel-war

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Could Israel flatten all of Gaza with sniper bullets?

Have you seen any actual combat footage from Gaza which is not American F35 planes dropping 2000 pound bombs on tents? There is good reason Israel does not dare to do anything except bomb from the sky.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 days ago

Love that his argument keeps going between Biden was just old and raised that way, he couldn't do anything since it was established usa policy, and it's just usa doing proxy war against Iran so of course they need to support the genocide.

All to keep Bidens image clean.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Nope, but they don't need to do that for a genocide either. It started when they began blocking food and medical supplies in the 90s.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Wow interesting you sure know a lot about history. Especially all the stuff which somehow makes it not Biden his fault that Israel was committing a full scale genocide which started during his term according to even Wikipedia.

Remind me who was advocating for Israel back in the 90s

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

US support for Israel didn't start in the 90s. Every US President has supported them since the 40s.

The most hilarous one was George W. Bush:

"We have to invade Iraq because they are in violation of 17 UN Resolutions!"

"Israel is in violation of over 80 of them in the West Bank and Gaza, it would be over 100 except for our resolution veto power, what about them?"

". . ."

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

The answer was Joe Biden in 1986

https://youtu.be/FYLNCcLfIkM

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 4 days ago

Iran don't want to attack the united statr. Thr united state does