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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it used to be their (UK) project initially. And while I'm hazy on the specifics, they supported it in ways that weren't always kosher, to put it mildly.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

The leadership of the current party in Government in the UK got their positions (both leading their party and subsequently their Government seats, as the UK like the US has a power duopoly thanks to the mathematical manipulation of the FPTP voting system, so as usual they eventually switched places in Government with the other party of the duopoly) as result of a campaign done with the help of Israeli-linked British Jewish associations against the previous leader of the party (the first leftwinger elected to lead it since the 80s) using slandering accusations of anti-semitism (so wild that at some point a Jewish Holocaust Survivor was accused of anti-semitism in order to taint said party leader by association as they were sitting in the same panel in a conference about Palestine) that eventually caused him to lose the job and got these people (who, like the Democrats in the US, are rightwing neoliberals) back leading that party.

Further, old money in Britain quite independently of ethnicity tends to be Fascist (they're big on Fascist tropes like "some people are born supperior to others", "people should know their place in social hierarchy", "the upper class are natural rulers" and so on) and there's a lot of old money in Britain which is in families of Jewish descent, so these are naturally big supporters of the Israeli regime and the whole "good old 19th-century style ultra racist 'civilized people amongst savages' white colonianist project" were Genocide is but a natural "removal of the vermin". Their power in the British system (were the elites have always had far more power than the broader population compared to the rest of Europe) in turn means most of the Press just spins things to convince the riff-raff to share that view of things, which is why even the supposedly unbiased (but not really) BBC uses tricks like the "passive voice" and "verbatum repetition of one side's statements as truth whilst for the other side use 'X said'" to spin the stories about the Genocide in favor of the Israeli side.

(I remember some years ago a survey of the trust in the Press by the locals in the various countries of Europe showing the UK press as one of the least trusted in Europe)

I lived in the UK for more than a decade and IMHO what we're seeing now is that after the big demonstration with 600k people against British support of Israel, the Press is being dragged by public opinion (mainly that of the well informed section of it who have Humanist values, so basically the urban middle class) so you see coverage in Liberal media like The Guardian and the BBC change from being "the voice of Israel" to something more subtle (using the spin tricks described above and others like it to favorably portray the Israeli side but not being quite as overtly one-sided in what they chose to cover), but the more overtly right-wing tabloids couldn't give a rat's arse and keep on pushing the pro-Fascist side (though this being Britain, even they are significantly more smooth about it than the likes of Fox News).