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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Then why can’t people consent in the other direction?

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because the parties involved embrace a religion that prohibits it, and they willingly consent to that restriction by extension.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Again, consent under duress is not consent. You can’t consent to a religion if leaving it causes you to be shunned by your family and community.

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can’t consent to a religion if leaving it causes you to be shunned by your family and community.

Then, according to that logic, not a single person who believes in a mainstream/typical religion is consenting to it, because many families and communities will shun you if you leave their religion. That is a social construct and may or may not happen depending on many factors.

Are you specifically talking about the concept of apostasy in Islam and how it’s supposedly punishable by death?

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

Then, according to that logic, not a single person who believes in a mainstream/typical religion is consenting to it, because many families and communities will shun you if you leave their religion.

Yep! It’s truly horrific, isn’t it? If there is an omnipotent god, why do the teachings need to be spread by force an violence by humans? That doesn’t seem very omnipotent to me…

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can’t consent to a religion if leaving it causes you to be shunned by your family and community.

Then almost no one consents to their religion worldwide at all, barring a relative handful who leave the dominant faith in their community and are essentially disconnected solo practitioners of whatever, because joining or marrying into a different religious community is essentially just choosing a different group with the power to shun you for leaving their faith in turn.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

Pretty abusive, isn’t it?