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You are the type of people who would both side nat turner revolt when he killed kids of slave owners
That's not "both siding", that's being principled. Terrorism is bad, full stop. There are no exceptions for anyone who commits terrorist attacks or justifications for any terrorist attacks.
That both siding. Israel is the occupier palestine is the occupied. You would reject all previous colonized people right to freedom with your logic
If you're actually arguing that the Oct 7th terrorists attacks were justified then you're a literal terrorist sympathizer.
If you think israel 57 years of occupation is justified you are a terrorist
i don't see you on a single post about israeli crimes and you think you smart and can fool people into thinking you don't support the terrorist state of israel
I choose the side not killing innocent people. Violence breads violence.
The leadership Israel is committing genocide. That doesn't mean that the opposite side are Angles. They just have less military force to kill with.
You are right Violence begets Violence that's why 7 of October atrocities happened. Israel started violence by occupying Gaza and the west bank in 67 and continued to kill Palestinians regularly.
7 of October is everybody fault especially the west with their strong economies that could have stopped Israel in 67 with extremity sanctions and kept ignoring decades of Israeli terrorisms. Before the 7 of October atrocities the whole western world was sleeping m only wake up for few minutes every time Palestinians retaliate after settlers violence , creation of new settlements or Palestinians whole neighborhoods to be evicted like in Sheikh Jarrah
Let me ask you a straight forward question, do you support the Oct 7th terrorist attacks? It's a simple yes or no question.
That isn't a straight forward question and I think you know that
Don't pick arguments just to argue. You are putting coal into the fire. This is rage bait.
No. Now answer this question do you condemn Israel 77 years of terrorism and do you support attacks on idf terrorists?
No, I don't support them, I'm glad we're on the same page. My whole point is that terrorism should be universally condemned.
what about attacking the idf terrorists?
We have to make several distinctions.
So by using the above parameters, Israel and Palestine attacking each other is only ever justified when:
So for example, if a Palestinian group launched rockets at an IDF airbase that is being used to bomb Gaza, that would be a justified attack. However, if the same groups goes into an Israeli town and kills an entire family in their house because someone in there served in the IDF at some point is not justified. The same goes the other way, Israel bombing an actual Hamas weapons stash is justified, but them bombing a hospital is not.
We agree about civilians but occupying forces should simply end occupation. None of their military actions is legal similar to Russia military operation on Ukraine army is illegal
But what exactly does that mean in this case? Like, what is the end result that you're hoping would become reality.
For me, this would mean Israel completely pulling out of the West Bank and Gaza and letting Palestine become an actual state. From that point on, they would cease hostilities and establish a no first use policy where one can only attack the other if it was attacked first. This is my ideal outcome as it gives both people self determination.
But we're not talking about legality, we're talking about the morality of using terrorism as a mean of achieving anything. The principle holds true regardless of conflict.
A one state solution would be the best solution. If not a two state solution, the problem with the two state solution is that Israel will kick out Arab Israelis from Israel and settlers will be kicked out from the west bank
Morality say that we should support the oppressed side . We can hold anybody who is responsible of war crimes and terrorists accountable once occupation end from both side
Except the people in those "israeli" towns are illegally occupying the land.
I do. And it was legal according to international law. What about it?
Ah so you do, at least we know what you are.