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[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 1 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Literally all you really need, fundamentally, is to have memorized your SSN. Your SSN’s validity cant be faked. It proves you are who you say you are at the drop of a hat. If its valid enough for a bank to loan you money through a phone, just because you know your name and your SSN and those match, then it should be good enough for ICE. Its good enough for normal law enforcement already.

And yes, many undocumented people have fake SSNs, but they are not real numbers that tie properly to persons name. They wouldnt pass an EVerify system

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

SSN is not proof of identity.

https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/articles/acceptable-forms-of-id#%3A%7E%3Atext=No%2C+a+Social+Security+card%2Cused+to+confirm+someone%27s+identity.

Is a social security card a form of ID?

No, a Social Security card is not a form of ID. It only verifies the connection between a name and a Social Security Number.

As it does not have a photograph or other features needed to confirm identity, it cannot be used to confirm someone's identity.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

My birth certificate doesnt have a photo of me on it either.

DLs and other photo documentation are easily faked in comparison to a SSN.

My comment was meant in the assumption that you have a normal form of ID as well. While your ID could easily be faked to show your picture, only you should know your social security number. Thereby identifying the validity of your photo ID.

Regardless, many government databases should have your photo ID from drivers licenses, passports, etc, tied to your social

I have literally used only my SSN to prove my identity to a game warden before. I didnt have my ID because I was out fishing in a boat. We got checked for licenses. I gave him my social and all was good. ICE should be no different than that

[–] silence7@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Most kids don't have the set of photos you describe in government databases.

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Are children the target audience of the article?

Are children likely to be detained independently of a guardian?

[–] silence7@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

ICE has been raiding elementary schools in the past few days.

I dont expect 2nd graders to read the article.

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