Your mistake is to assume everyone is on the same level, having access to the same amounts of resources. The guy asking you to let him do his job is doing so in order to survive. He doesn’t think four generations ahead. He barely thinks four meals ahead.

So the guy working to survive is the reasonable one, whilst people with no food, power, living, clothing, infrastructure, or any real form of insecurity, who ask them to start kicking the vent are just too obtuse and unaware of the real world to start thinking about reason.

Global warming is bad. Your kids crying themselves to sleep because of hunger is worse. I don’t care what your argument is. It is worse. So stop attacking people trying to survive, and start looking for alternatives before asking people to give their lives up, for your kids future. Be less selfish.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Holy fuck, you're actually defending someone blind enough to allow themself to be murdered with poisonous gas.

There's no way you aren't either some concern troll or a paid shill.

[–] IDriveWhileTired@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Worse: saying people that are trying to get by without any help from privileged folks (spoiler alert: those few quid you gave some NGO is being used in its majority to pay for wages in your own country) are “shheeple” is the apex of stupidity.

And criticizing people for pointing pity the flaws in your reasoning just shows how obtuse “green” people actually are. We have to fight global warming, but it does not start by having a Tesla. It starts by having viable alternatives, that are affordable to everyone, so a transition is possible.

So yeah, let’s make tons of noise around ending fossil fuels with an electric Volvo, Mercedes or Audi in the garage. Let say nuclear is as bad as fossil, while we’re at it, so we can show how truly stupid we are. Let’s have less ways for poor people to have food. I am sure Bill Gates will take care of the tab.

Sometimes I wonder if people actually are this stupid, or are just doing it for internet clout.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol nah, I am one of the working class and it's obvious you're just playing victim because the truth is, you like the system and refuse to believe you're actually being oppressed.

Meanwhile, that gas is leaking into the room. SSSSSSssss....

The guy trying to break the vent is one of your fellow victims too. He works hard to try to survive. Yet you are completely merciless toward him simply because he recognizes the boots you lick are the problem and you don't.... so where's his pity? Where's his sympathy? Where's his wall of text with motte and baileys subtly defending what he's doing without outright saying it?

A few of your fellow hardworking victims have already passed out. The brown ones in the south corner, do you see them? A few of them are clawing at the windows trying to break them. Don't think they'll disturb your work?

What if the men in the scenario busted into the room with machine guns and announced to everyone that they're going to systematically murder everyone inside, including you?

Will you get mad at the working class guys who turn over the desks and throw chairs at the mooks with guns to try to save their own lives? Or will you tell them to shut up and stop disturbing you too, as mooks walk desk go desk and shoot you in the back of the head?

😆 You're such a bootlicking sap. You absolutely do not deserve any sympathy from me and you won't get any, nor will arguing about whether you deserve it or not stop me personally from breaking those windows and climbing out, the other guys from breaking the vents, or the gas from slowly leaking into the room in the meantime...

SSSSSSSSSssssss....

But maybe the gas has already affected your brain, so there's no point in arguing with you. Maybe that's the real moral.

[–] IDriveWhileTired@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Congratulations, my “working class” friend, for your rant!

Hope you got the kick you needed out of insulting someone, as if you knew me, where I am from and what I am talking about, like probably you do regularly on social media.

Meanwhile, let the grown ups do the dirty work, so you can say your Tesla is the way to go. I am glad my existence makes your arrogance possible. Sleep well. There is no reasoning with obtuse.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

SSSSSSSSsssss....

crack crack CRACK!

The rest of us are over here breaking the windows and smashing the vent while you're too busy getting angry at us for disturbing your work to notice you're delusional from lack of oxygen, and about to pass out.

SSSSSSSsssss.....

[–] IDriveWhileTired@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know. Grownups are having to fix everything those pesky kids keep braking, in order to keep them in their sheltered existence. But hey, maybe someday those kind will learn how to think. Who knows? We keep trying to educate them.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

CRACK! And now that window shatters.

So you now admit you're helping the ruling class murder us. Well, that's one way to finally be honest.

The rest of the intelligent people climb out the window

Here's the kicker though: while you're helping them trap us inside the room slowly filling with poison gas, remember they never gave you an oxygen tank. They're killing you, too.

And I flip you the bird as I, too, climb out of that window.

Can you hear that? Men with guns are stomping as they rush to the room, only they're not there to stop us and save you. They're there to kill you and pursue us.

[–] IDriveWhileTired@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you ever felt hunger? Have you ever seen someone beg you for food? Not someone approach you in Times Square, Piccadilly Circus, Champs-Élysées, or whichever privileged place you are from, in order to make a buck, but see someone weak from actual hunger? Have you seen that?

I am all for green energy, and God knows I want us to stay away from fossil fuels.

But going “yeah, let’s end fossil fuels, and then see what happens to fix it ” is being very cavalier about ending millions of lifes, making billions suffer all around the world, so you can say you’ve done something good in your privileged community, go to the country club, opera or whatever and boast about your achievement.

But hey, you won’t be affected, so who cares, right? Let the poor eat brioches!