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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 60 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Wait wait wait wait. I know I've been surprised by this map numerous times.

BUT RUSSIA RECOGNIZES IT?

Also looking at this map, it seems the majority of the population of Earth recognizes it.

So in my head, that means that Palestine is 100% a nation. With sovereignty. And the US, Europe, and Australia are still "lalala i can't hear you" and "can't be a genocide if you aren't a targeted group of people that we recognize lalalalala."

[–] khorovodoved@lemm.ee 16 points 2 days ago

BUT RUSSIA RECOGNIZES IT?

Soviet Union was one of the major (if not the major) advocates for Palestine in UN. Russia still has significant connections to Palestine. For example, president of Palestine went to a victory day parade in Moscow this year.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 14 points 3 days ago

And the US, Europe, and Australia are still "lalala i can't hear you"

that's not just in your head, that's the awful reality we live in

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Back when they were a communist nation, they and most other communist/aligned countries recognized them.

Commies are cool, as it turns out.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Commies are cool, as it turns out.

Kinda depends on what kind of commie. Authoritarians like CCP, Bolsheviks and the Kim family? Never. But the Kronstadt sailors who died fighting the hypocrisies of the Bolsheviks, and the Japanese Communist Party who chose the peaceful route to try to gain power? They are cool.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

It's not about peaceful routes, it's about sustainability and avoiding evil.

Not all Bolsheviks were awful, too. It's just that the general agreement about "we are doing a marxist revolution and transforming a country worse than intended for that, and so we can only afford unity and centralism, and some hard solutions are necessary" meant that the hard solutions led from executions of some people to executions of many, and unity led to gradually destroying opposition (the communist kind), and centralism led ultimately to Stalin.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't really want to get into this argument, but just out of curiosity what do you think about Cuba?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cuba is still authoritarian. Their biotech research is pretty amazing though, in spite of sanctions and Castro's obsession with producing a supercow.

[–] Bee_R@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Don't you dare slander Ubre Blanca

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Out of interest, what do you think of cuba?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But the Kronstadt sailors who died fighting the hypocrisies of the Bolsheviks, and the Japanese Communist Party who chose the peaceful route to try to gain power? They are cool.

Funny how the only "good communists" to liberals are the ones that fail and die.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

And yet the entire USSR failed and died massively anyway?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Accomplished infinitely more than the dead failures you endorse. Almost like liberals think the only good communist is a dead communist 🤔

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But USSR is dead. How is that accomplishment?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, but he Kronstadt sailors aren't?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They died with principle and honour. And how did USSR die and remembered for if you think they are so great and infallible?

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

the USSR was the first state to recognize Israel. authoritarian commies are a fucking joke

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago

Commies are just as bad as Nazis.

That's the truth. It's a failed murderous ideology that killed tens of millions in a few short decades and brought nothing but poverty, tyranny, death, and destruction everywhere it went. It's flawed in both theory and practice, which is why it collapsed. All the modern day Marxists literally cannot defend this shitty ideology on it's own merits. Their worldview is supported entirely on lies, fallacies, and willful ignorance.

You can downvote and seethe all you want, won't change the reality one bit.