this post was submitted on 30 May 2025
256 points (100.0% liked)

Canada

9854 readers
619 users here now

What's going on Canada?



Related Communities


🍁 Meta


🗺️ Provinces / Territories


🏙️ Cities / Local Communities

Sorted alphabetically by city name.


🏒 SportsHockey

Football (NFL): incomplete

Football (CFL): incomplete

Baseball

Basketball

Soccer


💻 Schools / Universities

Sorted by province, then by total full-time enrolment.


💵 Finance, Shopping, Sales


🗣️ Politics


🍁 Social / Culture


Rules

  1. Keep the original title when submitting an article. You can put your own commentary in the body of the post or in the comment section.

Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage: lemmy.ca


founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You can't make vaccinations "mandatory", but you can make them the basic benchmark for participation in society.

In Ontario and New Brunswick, proof of vaccination is already required for children to attend school. But parents can get an exemption in both provinces for medical, religious or philosophical reasons, as long as they fill out a form.

This right here is the problem. Kids should need vaccinations to go to school or to receive government benefits of any kind, unless there is a firm medical reason that precludes them. Religious or philosophical excuses are not sufficient. If you don't want to get vaccinated then you don't want to participate in modern society.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seriously.

The kids who are actually vulnerable need their peers vaccinations rates as high as possible. That’s literally the point of herd immunity. God I just wish for one fucking second people weren’t so god damned selfish. There are literally children fucking dying because of this shit, right now. It’s fucking infuriating.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Instead of demanding that the peers get vaccinated they could just stay away from the peers.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

First Nations might not be happy with what you're suggesting

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Lots of indigenous aren't happy to be forced to be vaccinated by their colonial rulers.

They would claim their spirtial beliefs and culture should exempt them. Else its further oppression

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure, and that's why they have lower rates of vaccination and had higher rates of COVID than non-indigenous regions. It's also why indigenous communities were prioritized in rolling out COVID vaccines, because we knew it would be bad and wanted to make less of a barrier to entry. Indigenous values are important, but not at the expense of the health and safety of the public.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A delicate issue, but again - it's a basic prerequisite for participation in contemporary society.

It would be unethical to allow an exemption on those grounds.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it's a basic prerequisite for participation in contemporary society.

A fancy way of saying "mandatory"

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe, I guess it's subjective or semantics.

The article talks about mandatory as in forcible injection. You hold the kid down and put a needle in their arm. Obviously, this is not the way.

I'm suggesting that if you want to receive government benefits or want your child to participate in school then yes vaccination is "mandatory". Sure it's not much of a choice, but it captures the reality of the situation.

As a society, we can all work together for everyone's benefit. You can choose not to work together with everyone if you wish but it's not much of a choice.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Installing a behavior altering brain chip is not analogous to getting a vaccine.

Sorry I'm not going to engage with this type of argument.

[–] Plesiohedron@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was a wrong turn anyway, so I edited it. Sorry. I hoped to catch it before you replied.

But my point was the arrogance and disrespect. I find it shocking. The actual form of the insult was secondary.