If you're in the majority, you have the votes to actually accomplish something with reform. It's not like we live in a monarchy, reform is possible under our system.

If reform isn't working to bring about your goals, either your goals aren't popular enough, or they are popular but the people lack the will and organization to vote for them.

If the people lack the will and organization to vote effectively, they certainly lack the will and organization to topple the government.

My area of expertise is managing complex systems and change implementation. I sincerely don't understand how revolution is supposed to work where reform doesn't. No one has been able to give me an answer that doesn't bill down to idealistic hope. How is this revolution supposed to be implemented, and why can't we build the foundation for revolution while simultaneously using the tools we have for reform? Wouldn't widespread support for reform be the best possible proof of consensus?

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 hours ago

If you’re in the majority, you have the votes to actually accomplish something with reform.

Believing in santaclaus at least gets you presents...

[–] dzervas@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I think (reading aint my cup of tea so I do what I can) that the idea is that the majority of the people are easily swayed

one could argue that this is the case now with the amount of capitalist and anti-leftist projections

and the idea to fix the root cause of the above is tackled by each revolution-worthy system - education, free time, access to knowledge, etc.

though youve got a very good point that if we depend on stupid people to build something better, were buiding it on/with stupid people

good discussion subject, I'll take it to my friends

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Excellent point