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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

What a simpler time when we could all joke about Clinton arguing about the meaning of the word “is”.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

thing about that is, clinton actually had a point. he said "there is nothing going on between [he and monica lewinsky]" when asked, and was then accused of perjury. He argued that "is" meant "is", and because at the time of asking he and lewinsky didn't have an ongoing relationship he didn't lie.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 25 points 1 year ago

At least then we could argue about a lie being a lie, now it's all "he never said that (literally 4 seconds ago), if he did it's fine, if you're mad that's your fault, he never said it anyway. I like that he said it."

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also back then a president getting a BJ was grounds for impeachment lol it really puts things into perspective

[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

IIRC, he was impeached for lying about it, not actually doing it which IMHO, is less of an issue than cheating on your wife.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Great now im imagining a timeline where bill was 100% honest about it in a congressional hearing "Yeah I solicited a blowjob from monica, im one of the most famous and wealthiest politicians of the era. Spoilers, all us rich politicians like to get away with stuff we shouldn't be doing, and the system is rigged to let us do it. So, what are you gonna do about it?"

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Or even better:

"Hilldawg and I have been ethically non-monogamous since reading The Ethical Slut and I don't really understand why America should be brought into our personal business. Monica is regularly our third and we both filed paperwork with White House HR before any physical interaction to avoid suspicion of bias towards her job performance"

I mean if it's my dream timeline, I wanna make it fun.

[–] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Photos from early in their relationship definitely had the requisite amount of fuck-mojo

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The young Clintons could both get it, ngl

[–] AdamHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always wondered why they stuck it out. It seems they both have different ideas about physical intimacy, so why stay? Is money worth years of being unloved and unhappy. It makes no sense to me.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think they're unloved. I genuinely think more politicians than you think have "arrangements." Even if not, infidelity happens, and I'm glad they worked through it

[–] VR20X6@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cheating on his wife was reprehensible, but not really impeachment-worthy. Did it make any difference in his ability to govern? Nope. But sure, if it didn't happen in his second term, I'm not going to say you shouldn't have been allowed to consider it for whether or not you should vote for his reelection.

[–] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Cheating on your wife isn't illegal, because we don't live in a theocracy. That's between him and his wife and maybe a marriage counselor. It has nothing to do with his office.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was listening a podcast abour history of philosophy and the guy spent like two chapters talking abouts the meaning of "is" is, because of a middle age philosophers called the grammaticals or something like that, that keep discussing the meaning of words.

[–] aja@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 year ago

History of philosophy without any gaps