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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Never watched it, but am intrigued. How so?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Rian Johnson is a master of deconstructing genres.

if you went this long without watching it I won't spoil it but to say the themes are not typical of the rest of the franchise and the fans hated it for that.

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I love Rian Johnson's other work, especially Brick and Knifes Out.

I also love Star Wars.

I thought TLJ was dreadful though. He was just a really bad fit for it IMO. Has nothing to do with not being open to change, but it has to be the right change. "Can you hear me now?" gags and Luke casually tossing away an item that had been set up as important in the previous film were not the right changes.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Luke casually tossing away an item that had been set up as important in the previous film were not the right changes.

Agreed big time. This felt less like "cleverly unexpected" and more just a total disrespect for the source material.

"Hey remember the symbol of hopeful optimism you followed through trials and tribulations for 3 movies a long time ago? He's now a cynical burnout drunk uncle lol. Isn't that sooo unexpected but relatable and grim? SUBVERTED! I'll take my Oscar now..."

It felt like if some grimdark-TV-bros got ahold of a sequel to the LOTR trilogy, and we were to suddenly find Aragorn a heartless wannabe totalitarian ruler in the middle of a bitter divorce with Arwen. There would also be silly gags where he drunkenly shatters Andúril trying to cut a melon or something, and the kids absolutely loathe him because dysfunctional interpersonal drama is trendy. "Didn't expect that, did you?? Lol!"

...Then being told your expectations were childish and stupid when you find yourself upset by this. Lol

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

suddenly find Aragorn a heartless wannabe totalitarian ruler in the middle of a bitter divorce with Arwen. There would also be silly gags where he drunkenly shatters Andúril trying to cut a melon or something, and the kids absolutely loathe him because dysfunctional interpersonal drama is trendy.

This is hilariously horrifying to imagine! 😁